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Thanks! Nemo 19:45, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

SurveyMonkeyEdit

(Seen at subpage.) Cf. [1]. Have you already joined mail:wiki-research-l? See also some links to a one place where you can find most of the "research"/analytics/statistics questions worked on by the community. If you need more pointers to the kind of things that compose the bulk of editors' experience and research, let me/us know. :) --Nemo 07:30, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

HI Nemo! Thanks for your note :) I am on the Design team and work closely with the Research team. I work with all the teams, to various degrees depending on what kind of qualitative design research they need. I am a design researcher - focusing on user research and strategic design research. So, I do a lot of usability testing, collaboration with design and product, as well as collaborating with the research team. When the quantitative researchers have questions about why things are happening or not, I can help them answer the question. THey will help me find a representative sample of a certain cohort of users and I will design a research methodology to better understand the motivations, goals, experiences, etc. of that group. THis will provide some hypotheses about the Why question that we then can do more quantitative experiments with. Right now I am trying to build the Design / Research page. It is different than the whole research team, and would like to organized my findings differently as they are related to specific design projects. I thought I made a sandbox page to play in and prototype and learn - as a way to build this page out so it is more usable and useful.. can't find it at the moment. Am not remembering what I called it. I looked in my list of contributions - still no sight of it. Might have made it on another wiki :|
--ARipstra (WMF) (talk) 21:58, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Casual usability observationsEdit

Hello, I was wondering... I often conduct hands-on editing workshops and sessions for Wikimedia Italia and many others do all over the world. When doing so, I notice and mentally note down many non-obvious obstacles the users encounter (often frustrating me more than themselves), but I have no systematic way to share them other than file enhancement requests and bugs. Would it be worthwhile to set up a page where editing trainers from all over the world would be invited to post their (unplanned) (in)usability tests? --Nemo 14:52, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your note. The kind of observational data you are describing is really valuable for understanding details of the buriers people encounter when attempting to edit / contribute, and also what works well for people. Observational data is much more valuable and right to the point than self reported data which comes through surveys, etc. Using both methods, along with usage data analytics on a larger scale is powerful information, and part of what guides product teams how to reduce or (hopefully) eliminate those buriers. Since the design research department at the Foundation is getting up and running now, we have plans to do some structured research about editing. (This contextual inquiry article needs a little updating, which is on my list to do, but does a pretty good job of describing the methodology in general terms.) So, along with this kind of research, I think it would be valuable to also gather the observations you and others collect during editing workshops and sessions. Would it be possible for you and I to meet and discuss a method to gather those observations in a structured and quantifiable way? I have done this kind of work many times, and have suggestions about what might work best for structured data collection. I am, of course, open to collaborate with you on what kind of data collection would work best for you (and others) in the field. Thanks for reaching out Nemo!! --ARipstra (WMF) (talk) 08:37, 8 October 2014 (UTC)ARipstra (WMF)

Workshops and training of all sorts happens independently everywhere in the world, so it's not really possible to "represent" everyone and make a specific proposal. The data collection could start on a simple wiki page and evolve from there, but it probably needs two features: 1) simple, 2) tidy and alive.
1) Simple means that I can record something I observed in 5 minutes or less, possibly during an event, or shortly after it: this won't be the main objective of the even, just an accessory. 2) Tidy means that someone feels responsible for archiving stuff acted upon etc., alive that one feels the contribution will actually go somewhere and be useful.
Now just typing without too much thought: for instance, this could be a page (or even a phabricator project) where I can enter a simple "story" as in the first paragraph of the bug I linked above; then someone would be there to comment and, if the issue seems relevant enough, add the thing to a list of issues to verify more scientifically. To kickstart the project, you could say that in N months from now you'll make a usability session with a dozen users (or whatever thing is "scientifically suitable") in order to verify some usability suspicions, and that in N-1 months from now you'll need to have a list of hypotheses to verify, so you ask everyone to submit their observations, among which they'll be chosen. --Nemo 11:29, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Feedback testEdit

Hello Abbey! I reverted your successful test for a silly reason - that page on this site is managed via Liquid Threads, so the messages aren't actually posted there... well, it's a mess :p but the good thing is, LT is not really a thing anywhere else, so whatever you were doing, it works! (on "common", "regular" talk pages at least). Happy New Year to you too! --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 20:34, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Dear m(r)s Ripstra,
You sent me the survey twice. Bug or feature to make sure it really arrives at the right address? BTW: You have Frisian or Dutch roots? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ZeaForUs (talkcontribs) 00:25, 15 January 2015‎
Hello, Not sure who you are since you didn't sign. Sorry we sent the survey to you twice. This was not intentional, and are seeing that several people got it twice. We are looking into what happened to make sure that next time it doesn't happen. Thank you for taking the time to let me know :) Yes, I have Frisian roots, (about a quarter of me). My Great great grandfather emigrated from Frisland and came to Michigan, USA. The rest of me is English, French, Irish and Scottish. My Mom's family has been in the US since the 1640s. So, American for generations. How about you? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ARipstra (WMF) (talkcontribs) 01:51, 15 January 2015‎

I would like to participate in your surveyEdit

But the email I received on the 15th lacked a link. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk · contribs) pointed me to you as the person to contact. -- Llywrch (talk) 21:02, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Hello Llywrch - Thank you for reaching out. Would you please forward me the email you received that didn't have the link in it? We are trying to figure out why a few people got emails with no links. Also, if you do forward the email, please include the email address you received it at. That way I will be able to send you a specific link to participate in the survey. (My email is aripstra@wikimedia.org) Each participant had a unique link. THank you for taking the time to reach out. This is the first time our little department (design research) has sent out such a big survey, and it is very helpful to hear from everyone with feedback and issues. We keep learning! --ARipstra (WMF) (talk) 23:17, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
Done. -- Llywrch (talk) 00:17, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Pragmatic personasEdit

I was browsing File:WMF_pragmatic_personas_product.pdf and wanted to offer some comments.

  • Henry: Connect with a broader set of people who care about his favorite topics
Unlikely, and he'll probably be disappointed if that is his goal. Wikipedia has a policy that we are not a social network or forum for that sort of thing. It's all about editing the articles. Most interaction between editors is directly or indirectly related to dispute resolution.
Please help kill this social idea. The community generally finds it objectionable when the WMF tries to develop features inspired by the social concept.
  • Adriana: Become recognized on social media as a subject matter expert
Seems unlikely. Writing an encyclopedia for fun is a very odd, selfless, and low-profile hobby. We have an anti-ownership policy about articles, and editors generally don't need to know squat about a topic. Everything we write is supposed to come from published sources. "Experts" often have trouble because it's hard to avoid writing "what they know", which is a violation of our Original Research policy.
The WMF has floated some dubious ideas based on the ego/credit idea, such as trying to make the names of major contributors more visible on articles. It would be difficult to keep disruptive individuals from popping up there, usernames themselves may be offensive, and anyone trying to get their name to show up would be a threat to the quality of the article.
  • Wayne: He feels conflicted about the visual editor, and the new people it's brought into the world of editing Wikipedia. Though he' love to have more editors on all wiki projects, he feels like the visual editor is opening the door to people who don't understand the rules about editing, don't care as much, and often do more harm than good.
Well that one is horribly wrong, chuckle. The May_2015_study VisualEditor's_effect_on_newly_registered_editors found that visual editor helped an additional zero% of people make their first edit, increased one week retention of editors by zero%, increased three month retention of editors by zero%, and increased total edit contributions by zero%.
The original rationale for visual editor was to help more people edit (based on the theory that wikitext was an obstacle). The WMF has had a lot of difficultly absorbing the fact that the theory was wrong and that visual editor has utterly failed that goal.
I really wish the WMF could get over this horrible meme that the community doesn't like visual editor because we're afraid of the new people that it (supposedly) will bring in. There are plenty of reasons to wish visual editor were never built, but that definitely isn't one of them. Alsee (talk) 13:22, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

A kitten for you!Edit

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Share your experience and feedback as a Wikimedian in this global surveyEdit

Your feedback matters: Final reminder to take the global Wikimedia surveyEdit

(Sorry to write in Engilsh)

A kitten for you!Edit

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Mr 235 (talk) 12:54, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

Growth team updates #1Edit

Welcome to the first newsletter for the new Growth team!  

The Growth Team's objective is to work on software changes that help retain new contributors in mid-size Wikimedia projects. We will be starting with Wikipedias, but we hope these changes will benefit every community.

8 ideas we consider: tell us what you think about them!

We are considering new features to build, that could retain new editors in mid-size Wikipedias. We will be testing new ideas in Czech and Korean Wikipedias, and then we'll talk to more communities (yours!) about adopting the ideas that work well.

We have posted the 8 ideas we are considering. We would really appreciate your thoughts and the thoughts from your community. Please share the ideas, and tell us what do you and your community think of those ideas before September 9.

Share your experiences with newcomers

We want to hear about what is working and what is not working for new contributors in your wiki. We also want to hear any reactions, questions, or opinions on our work. Please post on the team’s talk page, in any language!

Learn more about us

You can visit our team page to find out why our team was formed and how we are thinking about new editors, and our project page for detailed updates on the first project we'll work on.

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Growth team updates #2Edit

Growth team updates #3Edit

Welcome to the third newsletter for the new Growth team!  

The Growth team's objective is to work on software changes that help retain new contributors in mid-size Wikimedia projects.

Two Growth team projects to be deployed in next two weeks

We will be deploying the "Understanding first day" and "Personalized first day" projects on Czech and Korean Wikipedias in the coming weeks. See the new project pages below for full details on the projects, and our project updates page for their progress.

  • Understanding first day: learn about the actions new editors take right after creating their accounts. We will be careful with user privacy, and we hope to share initial results in December.
  • Personalized first day: learn about new editors' objectives by adding some optional questions to the new editor’s registration process, and personalizing their onboarding. We hope to share initial results in December.

Third Growth team project begins

  • Focus on help desk: direct newcomers to the local help desks where they can ask questions to help them make their first edits. We hope to have an initial experiment running in December.

Best practices for helping newcomers

We are going to direct newcomers to help desks. But what's the best way to reply to a newcomer there? We have gathered some best practices for successful interactions, based on community experiences and some external documentation. The page has also been reviewed by some experienced community members who suggested some changes. That page is now open for translations. Comments and suggestions are still welcome!

We are still looking for volunteers

Do you want to participate to our experiments? We are looking for new communities to work with us (especially a new mid-size wiki), and people to become ambassadors to help us to communicate with the different communities. Discover how you can involve yourself or your community.

Also, please share this update with your community and interested people!

Learn more about us

You can visit our team page to find out why our team was formed and how we are thinking about new editors, and our project page for detailed updates on the projects we'll work on.

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Growth team updates #4Edit

Welcome to the fourth newsletter for the new Growth team!  

The Growth team's objective is to work on software changes that help retain new contributors in mid-size Wikimedia projects.

We need your feedback!

We have two requests for community members:

  1. Now that data is coming in for the welcome survey, we are planning how to use that data to personalize the newcomer's first day. See our current thoughts here, and join the conversation here.
  2. Try out the help panel's interactive prototype, and read about how we're planning to roll it out, and post any thoughts or reactions here.

Two Growth team projects have been deployed (detailed updates here)

  • Personalized first day (welcome survey) was deployed on November 20 on both Czech and Korean Wikipedias.
    • The survey is now being shown to half of new users (A/B test). Responses are being recorded in the database. We'll report on initial results during December.
    • We are planning to test a second version of the survey, called "Variation C", which we think will maximize the number of users who complete the survey and stay on the wiki.
    • The original objective of this project was to give newcomers the materials they need to achieve their goals, and so now we are currently planning how we will use the information collected in the welcome survey to personalize the newcomer's experience. We hope community members will read our current thinking and join the conversation here. Some of the plans we are considering include:
      • Making it easy for newcomers to see editing activity around the topic areas in which they indicated that they're interested.
      • Connecting interested newcomers to experienced editors.
      • Surfacing the help content most relevant to the reason for which the newcomers created their accounts.
  • Understanding first day (EditorJourney) was deployed on November 15 on both Czech and Korean Wikipedias. It has been done after a longer security review and final testing than expected. Data is now being recorded for all new users on those wikis, and we've been auditing the data and preparing to make initial reports during December. Stay tuned for the next newsletter!

Help panel is under construction

  • Focus on help desk (help panel) is planned to be deployed during the week of January 7 on both Czech and Korean Wikipedias.
  • This interactive prototype is the best way to see the design and wording in the feature.
  • We ran live user tests on the prototype, with results posted here.
  • In addition to giving the ability to ask a question, the help panel will also contain a set of links to existing help content. Our ambassadors on Czech and Korean Wikipedias are determining the right initial set of most helpful links in this task.
  • We encourage community members to try out the prototype and read about the rules for who will get the feature, and add any thoughts to this discussion.

We are still looking for volunteers

Do you want to participate to our experiments? We are looking for new communities to work with us (especially a new mid-size wiki), and people to become ambassadors to help us to communicate with the different communities. Discover how you can involve yourself or your community.

Also, please share this update with your community and interested people!

Learn more about us

You can visit our team page to find out why our team was formed and how we are thinking about new editors, and our project updates page for detailed updates on the projects we work on.

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Growth team updates #5Edit

Welcome to the fifth newsletter for the new Growth team!  

The Growth team's objective is to work on software changes that help retain new contributors in mid-size Wikimedia projects.

New projects for discussionEdit

We began the "Personalized first day" project with the welcome survey so that we could gather information about what newcomers are trying to accomplish. The next step is to use that information to create experiences that help the newcomers accomplish their goal – actually personalizing their first day. We asked for community thoughts in the previous newsletter, and after discussing with community members and amongst our team, we are now planning two projects as next steps: "engagement emails" and "newcomer homepage".

  • Engagement emails: this project was first discussed positively by community members here back in September 2018, and the team how has bandwidth to pursue it. The idea is that newcomers who leave the wiki don't get encouraged to return to the wiki and edit. We can engage them through emails that send them the specific information they need to be successful – such as contact from a mentor, the impact of their edits, or task recommendations. Please read over the project page, and comment on its discussion page with any ideas, questions, or concerns. Do you think this is a good idea? Where could we go wrong?
  • Newcomer homepage: we developed the idea for this project after analyzing the data from the welcome survey and EditorJourney datasets. We saw that many newcomers seem to be looking for a place to get started – a place that collects their past work, options for future work, and ways to learn more. We can build this place, and it can connect to the engagement emails. The content of both could be guided by what newcomers say they need during their welcome survey, and contain things like contact from a mentor, impact of their edits, or task recommendations. Please read over the project page, and comment on its discussion page with any ideas, questions, or concerns. Do you think this is a good idea? Where could we go wrong?

Initial reports on newcomer activityEdit

We have published initial reports on each of the team's first two projects. These reports give the basic numbers from each project, and there are many more questions we will continue to answer in future reports. We're excited about these initial findings. They have already helped us define and design parts of our future projects.

  • Welcome survey: the initial report on welcome survey responses is available here. Some of the main findings:
    • Most users respond to the survey, giving it high response rates of 67% and 62% in Czech and Korean Wikipedias, respectively.
    • The survey does not cause newcomers to be less likely to edit.
    • The most common reason for creating an account in Korean Wikipedia is to read articles—not for editing—with 29% of Korean users giving that responses.
    • Large numbers of respondents said they are interested in being contacted to get help with editing: 36% in Czech and 53% in Korean.
  • Understanding first day: the initial report on what newcomers do on their first day is available here. Some of the main findings:
    • Large numbers of users view help or policy pages on their first day: 42% in Czech and 28% in Korean.
    • Large numbers of users view their own User or User Talk page on their first day: 34% in Czech and 39% in Korean.
    • A majority of new users open an editor on their first day – but about a quarter of them do not go on to save an edit during that time.

Help panel deploymentEdit

The help panel was deployed in Czech and Korean Wikipedias on January 10. Over the past four weeks:

  • About 400 newcomers in each wiki have seen the help panel button.
  • About 20% of them open up the help panel.
  • About 50% of those who open it up click on one of the links.
  • About 5% of Czech users ask questions, and about 1% of Korean users ask questions.

We think that the 20% open rate and 50% click rate are strong numbers, showing that a lot of people are looking for help, and many want to help themselves by looking at help pages. The somewhat lower numbers of asking questions (especially in Korean Wikipedia) has caused us to consider new features to allow people to help themselves. We're going to be adding a search bar to the help panel next, which will allow users to type a search that only looks for pages in the Help and Wikipedia namespaces.

How to create a good feedback page?Edit

What is the way to built a good help page? What blocks you when writing an help page? Your replies will help to create better help contents to newcomers, that would be used on Help panel.

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Growth team updates #6Edit

18:19, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

Growth team updates #7Edit

16:19, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

Call for submissions for the Community Growth space at Wikimania 2019Edit

Welcome to a special newsletter from the Growth team! This special newsletter is not about Wikimedia Foundation Growth team projects. Instead, it is a call for submissions for the Community Growth space at Wikimania 2019. We think that many people who receive this newsletter may have something valuable to contribute to this space at Wikimania. We haven't translated the newsletter, because Wikimania's language is English.

Please see below for the message from the organizers of the Community Growth space at Wikimania.

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Wikimania 2019 is organized into 19 “spaces”, which are all accepting proposals for sessions. This message comes from the team organizing the Community Growth space.

Since you are interested b Growth team projects, and potentially involved in welcoming newcomers initiatives on your wiki, we would like to invite you to submit a proposal to the Community Growth space because of the actions you’ve done around newcomers on wikis. The deadline for submission is June 1. See below for Community Growth submission topics and session formats. Topics and sessions have to be in English.

In the Community Growth space, we will come together for discussions, presentations, and workshops that address these questions:

  • What is and is not working around attracting and retaining newcomers?
  • How should Wikimedia activities evolve to help communities grow and flourish?
  • How should our technology and culture evolve to help new populations to come online, participate and become community members?

Recommended topics: please see this link for the list for the list of recommended topics. If you do not plan to submit a proposal, you can also suggest additional topics here. If your topic does not fit into our space, remember that there are 18 other spaces that could welcome you sharing your knowledge and perspective.

Types of session. We prefer sessions that are participatory, interactive, promote conversations, and give a voice to parts of our movement that are heard less often. Please see this link for the list of recommended session formats.

Poster submissions. Posters are also a good way to introduce a topic, or show some results of an action. Please consider submitting one!

More information about the Community Growth space, topics, and submission formats is available on the proposal page.

Please submit your proposal. The reviews will happen at the beginning of June.

If you have questions about Wikimania in general, please ask them on the Wikimania wiki.

On behalf of the Community Growth leadership team, Trizek (WMF), 11:44, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Growth team updates #8Edit

09:02, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

Growth team updates #9Edit

14:26, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Growth team updates #10Edit

18:49, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Growth team updates #11Edit

15:02, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

  1. This survey is primarily meant to get feedback on the Wikimedia Foundation's current work, not long-term strategy.
  2. Legal stuff: No purchase necessary. Must be the age of majority to participate. Sponsored by the Wikimedia Foundation located at 149 New Montgomery, San Francisco, CA, USA, 94105. Ends January 31, 2017. Void where prohibited. Click here for contest rules.
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