2019年讨论页咨询/参与小组注册

參與小組是2019年討論頁諮詢中幅射式結構的一個關鍵部分。MediaWiki.org為本計畫的主要Wiki網頁，以作為整個過程的中心樞紐。為了讓各式各樣的維基媒體人能夠分享他們的想法，我們希望每個人都能夠在他們感到舒適的主要語言環境，討論關於Wiki討論系統的議題。

参与小组（社區）名稱

正式或非正式的名稱可以辨別每個參與小組。這可以是既有的名稱（例如自治體名稱或維基媒體計畫名稱）或是針對本次諮詢所採用的新名稱。

語系

参与小组应该用他们认为最舒服的语言就有关讨论页面的事项进行讨论。不过，最终报告请用英文书写。

主要联系人

參與小組可以依照他們的決定組織成大型或小型討論群組，但每個小組必須要在MediaWiki.org的中央討論群組有一名（或兩名）小組協調人員。

該名用户需要读写英文。我们将定期与该用户联系，以使过程尽可能简单。

该用户承诺平等对待所有反馈和意见，并在最终报告中考虑它们。

咨询小组方式

部分小組會在他們的主要Wiki網站討論，其他小組可能會決定在其他網站（如許多社群習慣使用的社群網站），甚至可能會以面對面方式進行討論，例如編輯松。

您将在哪里记录您的讨论？

對於在Wiki網站上的討論，請提供本次討論的連結。在（大型）Wiki網站建立一個獨立頁面可以協助您追蹤所有的回饋。對於在Wiki網站以外的討論，請提供一份討論總結的書面報告連結。這份報告可以用偏好語言撰寫，後續我們將會協助翻譯。

Phase 2

Click to read the Phase 1 report!

In its second phase, the consultation is focusing on conversation around trade-offs. Community summaries for Phase 2 are due by June 24, 2019. Each participant of the group gives individual feedback related to the below questions:

1. What do you think of the proposed product direction?

   Context: The Wikimedia Foundation proposes building a new, clearer design on top of existing wikitext talk pages. It will offer simpler tools for replying, indentation and signatures. You could continue to use wikitext on talk pages, if you prefer that. It should also be possible to participate in a discussion without using wikitext.

   Question: What do you think of this product direction?

2. Marking separate discussions

   Context: People want to watch individual sections on the talk page. They want better notifications, archiving, and search. To do any of this, we may need to create a more structured definition of what counts as a single discussion. This may mean making changes to the wikitext conventions on a talk page. For example, we may create a new way that discussion headings look in wikitext, or a new link that you need to use to create, rename or split a thread.

   Question: What are the advantages and disadvantages of that approach?

3. Helping newcomers find the talk pages

   Context: Newcomers have difficulty finding talk pages. During user tests, only one person out of ten found the 讨论 tab. Most testers looked for a 讨论 tab on the opposite side of the page, where all of the other tabs and links are. Many people also expected to see links to discussions about specific sections in the article. We may want to move the link to the talk page to the opposite side of the article page. We might add discussion functionality connected to individual sections.

   Question: What are the advantages and disadvantages of making the connection between article content and discussions more visible?

4. Where to show discussion tools

   Context: Currently, many wikis have community discussion spaces in the project namespace (Project or Wikipedia:), rather than in a talk namespace (Project talk or Wikipedia talk:). The project namespace is often used for village pumps/cafés, noticeboards, and some workflows, such as Articles for deletion. The system will need to know where discussions happen, so that it can display the new tools in those discussions, and not display them on other pages. There are several potential ways to do this. One of them is to move all discussions to a talk namespace.

   Question: What are the advantages and disadvantages of doing that?

5. History tradeoffs

   Context: Sometimes, you need to see the history of the entire page. Other times, it would be more helpful to see the history of only a single discussion thread. It would be ideal if we could provide both, but we're not sure how to do that.

   Question: What are the advantages and disadvantages of having a complete page history or a specific thread history?

6. Metadata location

   Context: Some wikis place templates at the top of article talk pages. These may show instructions, warnings, or FAQs. They may hold page quality information, link to relevant WikiProjects, or identify past activities. Many new users are confused by finding non-discussion material at the top of an article talk page. It would be helpful to move some or all of that content somewhere else on the page, or under a different tab.

   Question: What are the advantages and disadvantages of that approach? Which templates are crucial for the proper use of a discussion page, and which could be moved somewhere else?

Every participant gives others the opportunity to express themselves: we're collecting feedback, so this is not a vote or a decision process. At the end, all of the feedback will be documented.

Participant groups

Community summaries for Phase 2 have been posted!

Note for volunteer coordinators: please add your wiki to the lists below:

• The first table lists pages that are ready to receive feedback. A banner will be displayed to logged-in users on your wiki, using the provided page.
• The second table is for pages that are still under construction. When ready, please move the page to the first table, so that the link can be used in the banner.

Confirmed participant groups

What is the name of the participant group?	Which language?	How will you consult your group?	Access the discussions	Which user will be the primary contact?	Notes
中文维基百科	中文	On-wiki, Facebook, Telegram	中文	Taiwania Justo
英语维基文库	英语	On-wiki	英语	Beleg Tâl
英语维基百科	英语	On-wiki	英语	Jc86035
法语维基百科	法语	On-wiki	法语	Lofhi
Russian, all wikis	俄语	On-wiki	俄语	Sunpriat
德语维基百科	德语	On-wiki	德语	MBq
荷兰语维基百科	荷兰语	On-wiki	荷兰语	Ad Huikeshoven
Wikidata	英语	On-wiki	英语	Jc86035
Polish	波兰语	On-wiki	波兰语
泰语维基百科	泰语	On-wiki	泰语	Tris T7
捷克语维基百科	捷克语	On-wiki	捷克语	Dvorapa

Under construction groups

To be confirmed groups

What is the name of the participant group?	Which language?	How will you consult your group?	Access the discussions	Which user will be the primary contact?	Notes
日文维基百科	日语	On-wiki	日语	Bletilla

This second table is for groups that are under creation. If your group is ready to receive feedback, please move it to the first table.

You can also participate by leaving a comment on the report's talk page.

Phase 1

Phase 1 groups

在第一阶段，协商不是辩论或得到最终决定同意做什么/不做什么的过程。小组中的每个参与者都提供个人反馈，您可以参考以下指南進行討論：

• 當您想要與您的社群討論某個議題時，哪些工具對您來說覺得實用，哪些則會阻礙您的討論？
• 討論頁對於新手而言有什麼用處，而阻礙新手討論的又是什麼？
• 您所屬社群中的其他人关于对话页面有什么争执？
• 您希望在討論頁能做到什麼，但因為技術限制而無法達成？
• 您認為「Wiki式討論」要有哪些重要的樣貌？

每个参与者都有机会表达自己的意見。最后，所有回饋將會予以建檔（见下文）。

何時結束收集回饋？

第一階段的社群總結應於2019年4月6日發佈。最佳的選擇是在3月31日結束討論，這樣就會有足夠時間分析與組織收集到的回饋。

参与小组

如果您有兴趣代表参与小组，请在下面注册：

Community summaries are due by April 6, 2019. We advise communities, especially the ones that would have had collected a lot of replies, to end the conversation by March 31.

We do not advise creating new groups now, unless you can get a significant amount of feedback before the due date.

已確認的參與小組

参与小组名称為何？	哪种语言？	您将如何咨询您的小组？	您将在哪里记录您的讨论？	哪个用户将成为主要联系人？	备注
阿拉伯语维基百科	阿拉伯语	on-wiki, Wiki-ar mailing list, Twitter	Arabic Wikipedia Talk pages consultation 2019	User:Dyolf77
加泰罗尼亚语维基百科	加泰罗尼亚语	on-wiki	Consulta sobre Pàgines de discussió 2019	Mikicat	I've set up a section in the main community discussions' page to talk about it.
中文维基百科	中文	on-wiki, Facebook and Telegram	2019年討論頁諮詢 (Talk pages consultation 2019 on Chinese Wikipedia)	Taiwania Justo
Commons	Mainly English	on-wiki	c:Commons:Talk pages consultation 2019	Jc86035 (provisionally); possibly others	As above. Jc86035 (talk) 14:53, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
荷兰语维基百科	荷兰语	on-wiki	Dutch Wikipedia Overlegpagina's raadpleging 2019	User:Ad Huikeshoven (talk)	-
英语维基百科	英语	on-wiki	English Wikipedia Talk pages consultation 2019	Jc86035 (provisionally); possibly others	I've set up a section on the page for users to indicate that they would be interested in summarizing the discussion and would be able to do it. Jc86035 (talk) 14:33, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
英语维基文库	英语	on wiki	English Wikisource Talk to us about talking	User:Beleg Tâl
法语维基百科	法语	on wiki	Wikipédia en français Consultation sur la communication 2019	Lofhi
French Wiktionary	法语	on wiki	Wiktionnaire en français Sur les outils de discussions	Pamputt
德语维基百科	德语	on-wiki	Globale Konsultation zum Thema Kommunikation 2019	Sänger
印地语维基百科	印地语	on-wiki	Talk to us about talking	Wikilover90, J ansari (provisionally); (Possibly others)	I can be reached via Wikimail or my talk page
匈牙利语维基百科	匈牙利语	on wiki	Konzultáció a vitalapokról és a közösségi kommunikációról	Samat
Iberocoop	西班牙语, 葡萄牙语, 意大利语	Telegram group	on meta-wiki, Iberocoop space	Superzerocool	I'm a Tech Ambassador for Spanish Wikipedia, but I'd prefer do this volunteer work on Iberocoop.
日文维基百科	日语	on-wiki	Japanese Wikipedia 2019年ノートページに関する協議	Bletilla
书面挪威语维基百科	书面挪威语	on wiki	Norsk bokmål Wikipedia Hvordan snakker vi med hverandre	Jeblad (talk)	Seems like it is only me on the discussion page, so it will not be much summarizing to do! Jeblad (talk) 12:37, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
波兰语维基百科	波兰语	on-wiki	Dyskusja Wikipedii:Konsultacje w sprawie stron dyskusji, Informational page		I plan to make this place also for sister projects in PL or ask them about another place.
俄语维基百科	俄语	on-wiki	ru:Википедия:Форум/Архив/Общий/2019/02#Консультация по страницам обсуждений 2019 Topic:Uv6uphqn90bxqloh	Sunpriat	From our old discussions around Flow, you can pick up a few suitable thoughts about communication systems in general: 1 2 3
Thai Wikipedia, Newcomers	泰语	on-wiki, Facebook	Thai Wikipedia, newcomers Talk pages consultation 2019	User:Tris T7 (User talk:Tris T7)	Contact me via sister Project on Meta, Commons, & Global account User:Tris T7
Wikidata	Mainly English	on-wiki	Wikidata Talk pages consultation 2019	Jc86035 (provisionally); possibly others	As above. Jc86035 (talk) 15:47, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
MediaWiki Stakeholders' Group	mainly English	in person at EMWCon Spring 2019	Talk pages consultation 2019/Program and event organizers	User:MarkAHershberger

Under construction groups

未確認的參與小組

	哪种语言？	您将如何咨询您的小组？	您将在哪里记录您的讨论？	哪个用户将成为主要联系人？	備註
塞尔维亚语维基百科	塞尔维亚语	on-wiki	w:sr:Consultatio and comunication Contact me on еn: User:Intermedichbo ср: Корисник:Intermedichbo	Intermedichbo	My name is Milorad Dimic MD. I am a Specialist of Aviation and Hyperbaric Medicine. A place for communication — Корисник:Intermedichbo
维基中文文史类条目小组	中文	on-wiki		User:Daniel J Zhao
Bulgarian Wikipedia / Българската Уикипедия	保加利亚语	on-wiki	TBC	User:Dreamsparker	My name is Preslav Yankov and I would wish to help with all my knowledge to the development of Wikipedia.
孟加拉语维基百科	孟加拉语	on-wiki, Facebook and Discord discord .gg/JSD9EXP	Talk pages consultation 2019	PromiseKun
English Newcomers	英语	on-wiki and Instagram (additional)	English Wikipedia, newcomers Talk pages consultation 2019	User:Manupriy Ahluwalia (talk)	I've set up a section for this purpose on my Talk Page.For Instagram you can contact me on @manupriy.User:Manupriy Ahluwalia
豪萨语维基百科	豪萨语	on-wiki	Talk pages consultation 2019	Em-mustapha
信德语维基百科	信德语	on-wiki, Facebook and Instagram (additional)	Sindhi Wikipedia, existing & newcomers Talk pages consultation 2019	User:JogiAsad ; (Possibly others)	I've set up a section for this purpose on Sindhi Wikipedia.For Instagram you can contact me on @Sindhi_Wikipedia_Official.User:JogiAsad

This second table is for groups that are under creation. If your group is ready to receive feedback, please move it to the first table.

If your community is not listed above, please go to the top of the page to find the information about creating a consultation group.