Talk:Edit Review Improvements/New filters for edit review

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This page is about New Filters for Edit Review filtering tools and interface. These are now standard on Recent Changes and the Watchlist.

New filters for edit review are in maintenance mode. Major bugs will be fixed but no improvements are scheduled for now.

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Have a detachable panel to see the results of filters selection

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Summary by Trizek (WMF)
Captainllama (talkcontribs)

It's a shame that the box for configuring the edit filters covers the user's watchlist. It means that, despite the changes taking effect in real time, the user cannot see the effect that their changes are having. I would like for the edit filter box to be a detachable panel, or a new window, or for there to be some other way that the user can actually see the result of what they are doing, without having to close and open the box repeatedly.

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Which box are you referring to? Can you share a screenshot?

Captainllama (talkcontribs)

Yes, this box. You can see fragments of my obscured watchlist to the right of the edit box.

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

The box is not supposed to remain open if you've closed it.

What happen when you click outside of this box? Any click outside is supposed to close it; press Esc works too.

I can't reproduce the issue, so I suspect an issue with one of your scripts/gadgets. Do you still have the issue when you access the watchlist with this special link? If no, please follow the instructions about broken scripts and report here.


Wargo (talkcontribs)

He do not want to close menu definitely to see updated list.

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Ha, thanks Wargo! Now that I re-read it, it is quite obvious. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Captainllama, changing the panel requires a significant work. I've documented it, but it is very unlikely to see this change made in the future.

Reply to "Have a detachable panel to see the results of filters selection"

How can a person request a new page, creating a "stub" for the illustrator Wen Hsu Chen

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168.156.90.10 (talkcontribs)

How can a person request a new page and start producing it, without going down a rabbit hole of hundreds of hours? I started what I thought was creating a "stub" for the illustrator Wen Hsu Chen, and put some work into the paragraph and references, but when I hit "submit" it disappeared and I do not know how to retrieve it to keep improving it.

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

On the wiki you've been working on, you have a link at the top right of your screen labelled "Contributions". There, if your IP address hasn't changed, you will find your draft.

This is more or less how I found your draft, using the "Contributions" page, to see what your IP address has produced.

I really advise you to create an account on the wikis. This way, you will be able to save your page using your personal watchlist.

Reply to "How can a person request a new page, creating a "stub" for the illustrator Wen Hsu Chen"

User registration and experience section

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Bikerbudmatt (talkcontribs)

I'd like to have some control of the range for the "experience" levels. I'm an experienced editor creating a standalone wiki. It's not helpful to have the "only" 160+ contributions I've made so far to be lumped in with my users who are working with a wiki for the first time. Even less helpful to think that the arbitrary number of 500 is what I need to attain to bump me into the "experienced" level.

Either allow these categories to exclude administrators by option, or allow administrators to adjust the scoring ranges in a way that gives them a useful filter.

Thanks! ~~~~

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

So the goal would be to have a way to :

  • define new experience thresholds (like user that have more than 50 edits but less than 200)
  • filter users by status

Am I right?

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Defining thresholds is probably doable in your wiki's configuration file. @Roan Kattouw (WMF) will know more about it.

Filter users is not a feature we are considering for now. Developments are made in priority for Wikimedia wikis, and we are really concerned by filtering by users being used to stalk at people. The only way to filter users is by the number of edits, by thresholds.

Bikerbudmatt (talkcontribs)

Thank you. I will look there first, and check with @Roan Kattouw (WMF) if I get stuck. I presume you're using "stalk at" in a Wiki sense here.


I appreciate your responses!

Roan Kattouw (WMF) (talkcontribs)

@Bikerbudmatt Apologies for the late response; you can configure the experience thresholds in LocalSettings.php. Copy the settings below to your LocalSettings.php and change the numbers:

$wgLearnerEdits = 10;
$wgLearnerMemberSince = 4;
$wgExperiencedUserEdits = 500;
$wgExperiencedUserMemberSince = 30;

A user is considered "experienced" if they have $wgExperiencedUserEdits edits and have had their account for at least $wgExperiencedUserMemberSince days (default: 500 edits and 30 days). A user is considered a "learner" if they haven't reached "experienced" yet, but they do have at least $wgLearnerEdits edits and have been around for at least $wgLearnerMemberSince days (default: 10 edits and 4 days). A user is considered a "newcomer" if they don't have enough edits/days to be a "learner".

Bikerbudmatt (talkcontribs)

@Roan Kattouw (WMF) and @Trizek (WMF)Thank you both for your kind assistance, and especially for the proper configuration strings. The only value that I changed is $wgExperiencedUserEdits, as the others all make sense to me.


Best in the new year, and cheers!


New filters for edit review not shown

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Summary by Bella840705

install Virtual Editor will solve this issue

Bella840705 (talkcontribs)

I install a new wiki.

But the filters still showing "..."

please help me....


Проверка правок.

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AURACN (talkcontribs)

После размещения статьи получили замечание касательно ее стиля.

Исправили всё, внесли необходимые коррективы, но та надпись о том, что "Стиль этой статьи неэнциклопедичен или нарушает нормы русского языка" вверху статьи неисчезла.

Уже несколько дней все в таком состоянии.

Пожалуйста, помогите! Проверьте правки и утвердите либо подскажите, что конкретно нужно еще изменить.

Ссылка на статью https://ru.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D0%93%D0%B8%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B7%D0%B5&editintro=%D0%A8%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%BD%3AEditnotice%2F%D0%9D%D1%8B%D0%BD%D0%B5_%D0%B6%D0%B8%D0%B2%D1%83%D1%89%D0%B8%D0%B5@AnimusVox

Kaartic (talkcontribs)

Machine translated version

Соответствующий пост этого запроса находится на одной из следующих страниц местного сообщества, где вы получите правильное разрешение:

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A4%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BC/%D0%9E%D0%B1%D1%89%D0%B8%D0%B9

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A4%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BC/%D0%92%D0%BE%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%8B#%D0%A3%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%86%D1%8B

Надеюсь это поможет!


Original untranslated version

The appropriate post this query is in one of the following local community pages where you would receive a proper resolution:

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A4%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BC/%D0%9E%D0%B1%D1%89%D0%B8%D0%B9

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A4%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BC/%D0%92%D0%BE%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%8B#%D0%A3%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%86%D1%8B

Hope this helps!

Reply to "Проверка правок."

A "Filter OUT" option would make this tool even better.

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Markworthen (talkcontribs)

For example, I would like to filter OUT Wikidata edits. Otherwise, I really like the tool - appealing and easy interface, fast, not intrusive. Thanks! ~~~~

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Thank you for your comment!

Do you have the "WIkidata" filter selected (checked)? If so, uncheck it.

In your preferences, check if "Show Wikidata edits in recent changes" in both Watchlist and Recent changes in your Preferences ar checked or not.

I gave you the explanations with the English labels, assuming that English Wikipedia is your primary wiki based on your profile.

Markworthen (talkcontribs)

Thank you @Trizek (WMF) for the fast response. :) Here are my current global settings:

Wikidata filter = Not checked

Watchlist: "Show Wikidata edits in recent changes" = Not checked

Recent changes: "Show Wikidata edits in recent changes" = Not checked

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Do you have this issue on your watchist, on Recent Changes or both? What happen if you check, save, uncheck and save those preferences?

Markworthen (talkcontribs)

On my watchlist. What is "Recent Changes"?

I did the following for Wikidata edits:

Check > Save > Uncheck > Save

I did that in the Filter and in Preferences. I purged cache afterwards, but no difference. I tried it on Edge and Chrome.

I have this Beta feature enabled: New wikitext mode. I don't know if that could be a factor.

Having wikidata edits showing up in my Watchlist is not a major problem for me, but I did want to give you all some feedback since you've worked so hard on this project and overall I'd call it a big success. :0)

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Recent Changes are where all new edits are listed.

Do you use any gadget? Can you visit your watchlist using this special link? It will turn off any gadget/script/magic trick that may interfere.


Markworthen (talkcontribs)

I used the special link, but no change.

I use a lot of gadgets:

BROWSING

ImageAnnotator: view image notes and comments on file description pages

Redirect image links to Commons for files hosted there

Navigation popups: article previews and editing functions pop up when hovering over links

Open external links in a new tab or window

Twinkle: automate common tasks such as reporting vandalism, warning vandals, requesting deletion, welcoming users, and tagging articles (preferences)

Enable the Teahouse "Ask a question" feature

Reference Tooltips: hover over inline citations to see reference information without moving away from the article text (does not work if "Navigation popups" is enabled above)

FormWizard: a wizard for creating and expanding project pages


WATCHLIST

Geonotice: display notices on your watchlist about events in your region

Display watchlist notices

(This loads the base style for the watchlist. Please do not disable this option.)

Display green collapsible arrows and green bullets for changed pages in your watchlist, page history and recent changes (unavailable with the improved Watchlist user interface)

Display pages on your watchlist that have changed since your last visit in bold (see customizing watchlists for more options)

Subtle update marker: Tone down the "Changed since last visit" indicator on history pages. (By default it renders as a green-filled bar, enabling this gadget changes it to green text.)


EDITING

Add two new dropdown boxes below the edit summary box with some useful default summaries

Citation expander: automatically expand and format citations using Citation bot

Syntax highlighter: Alternative to the default coloring of wiki syntax in the edit box (works best in Firefox and works almost all of the time in Chrome and Opera)

HotCat: easily add, remove, and change categories on a page, with name suggestions (example)

Shortdesc helper: easily add and edit page short descriptions

wikEd: alternative full-featured integrated text editor for Firefox, Safari, and Google Chrome (documentation)

Yet Another AFC Helper Script: easily review Articles for creation submissions, Files for Upload, redirect and category requests

Form for filing disputes at the dispute resolution noticeboard

CharInsert: add a toolbar under the edit window for quickly inserting wiki markup and special characters

refToolbar: add a "cite" button to the editing toolbar for quick addition of commonly used citation templates

Add extra buttons to the old (non-enhanced) editing toolbar


APPEARANCE

Add an [edit] link for the lead section of a page

Add a clock to the personal toolbar that displays the current time in UTC and provides a link to purge the current page

MoreMenu: add Page and User dropdown menus to the toolbar with links to common tasks, analytic tools and logs (documentation: Vector, Monobook or Modern)

Change UTC-based times and dates, such as those used in signatures, to be relative to local time (documentation)

Display a floating alert for new talk page messages

Display an assessment of an article's quality in its page header (documentation)

Show radio buttons to switch between views of certain content, such as some maps

SidebarTranslate: display sidebar language links in English

Widen the search box in the Vector skin

Display links to disambiguation pages in orange

Strike out usernames that have been blocked

Improved appearance for mobile, narrow and wide screens (documentation)

XTools: dynamically show statistics about a page's history under the page heading


TESTING AND DEVELOPMENT

AddMe: endorse or join a project using Template:Probox

Make sure that headers of tables remain in view as long as the table is in view (requires Firefox v59 or Safari)

Install scripts without having to edit your JS files

Markworthen (talkcontribs)

QUESTION: If I give you permission, can you inspect my settings for Watchlist, Preferences, etc.?

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

The link I gave you enables Safemode to the page you visit (it adds safemode=1 to the URL): it disabled every script and gadget you use. The next process is to look for a bug in the console, which is explained on this page.

I can't have access to your Watchlist and all, unless if you give me your password, which is something you mustn't consider (and we won't do).

Wargo (talkcontribs)

Copy here link from your browser when you are on watchlist and have unchecked Show Wikidata edits.

Markworthen (talkcontribs)
Markworthen (talkcontribs)
Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)
Markworthen (talkcontribs)

Ah ha! Thank you so much Trizek, that worked. :0) I checked the boxes for Page edits, Page creations, and Non-minor edits. I appreciate your help!

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)
Reply to "A "Filter OUT" option would make this tool even better."
Iwan Novirion (talkcontribs)

About couple days ago, I have made a tag on Special:Tag page but it not appear on ERI tag list. How could it be?

Thanks for the answer.

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Hello

Can you provide more context? Which wiki, which tag?

Thanks!

Iwan Novirion (talkcontribs)

Oh sorry, my mistake. On Minangkabau wiki at "Artikel Wikipedia Masuak Sakolah" tag's. It's not appear on ERI tag list at Recent change page.

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

The tag has been applied to 0 edits. It will not appear until an edit matching this tag happens.

Iwan Novirion (talkcontribs)

You mean it will appear on the drop down list when I click this button, right?

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

It will appear if:

  • you click on the button and
  • an edit is tagged with this tag

At the moment, zero edit is tagged with this tag. So you can't see it when you click on the button.

Iwan Novirion (talkcontribs)
Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Oh, thank you! :D

S.A. Julio (talkcontribs)

Is there a way to be able to filter out specific tags? This would be very useful, occasionally in my watchlist there will be an influx of AWB edits (i.e. cleaning up typos in articles). I would like to be able to filter out edits with the AWB tag in order to see all other changes (as far as I'm aware this isn't currently possible).

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)
Location of the Tag menu

It is possible to filter tags, if those tags have been created on the wiki you're active on.

To filter AWB tags, go to the Tags menu (on the left), and type AWB in the search bar (or just type #AWB in the search bar).

However, it is not possible to exclude tagged edits from display for now.

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)
MisterSanderson (talkcontribs)

It would be really nice to have the option of "filtering out".

Summary by Trizek (WMF)
Jon Harald Søby (talkcontribs)

On Wikidata, it would be extremely helpful to be able to invert the filter for "Tag:Widar [1.4]", but I'm not able to find a way to do it. If you go to the normal Recent Changes there, you'll see looooaaads of edits with this tag, so being able remove only them would help significantly with making RC more useful.

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Thank you for your feedback. This request has already been made and we will consider to enable that option.

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)
197.235.55.17 (talkcontribs)

The old french saying "Un chien vivant vaut mieux qu'un lion mort" is applicable here. The proposed solution is quite reasonable.


The "perfect" alternative doesn't seem like it would be used much and may also be quite confusing to explain and to show in the user interface.

Already seen changes are still appearing as unseen

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Ita140188 (talkcontribs)

Even though I reported this problem repeatedly, and they always assured me they solved it, I still routinely find seen changes or even just edited pages highlighted as unseen in the watchlist. Please fix this as it is a huge waste of time.

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)
Reply to "Already seen changes are still appearing as unseen"
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