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Bad bot: block, please

User:Maycon 1993 —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:23, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

 Done This was done by Clump. Jdforrester (talk) 14:23, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

Protect a topic summary

The topic summary for Topic:Xuaj7i4ajtzj3pem has been vandalized a lot for some reason. Could someone semi-protect it or the entire topic? Aaron Liu (talk) 12:01, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

 Done I've semi-protected the thread for six months. Jdforrester (talk) 14:26, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

@Jdforrester I don't think that worked. Aaron Liu (talk) 22:38, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

@Aaron Liu: Well, that's unhelpful. Apparently this was never implemented: phab:T113902. Jdforrester (talk) 21:00, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, that was helpful! According to that, you could maybe create an edit filter, sort of like Special:AbuseFilter/58 but for the edit-topic-summary action and target that specific page. Aaron Liu (talk) 21:12, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

That seems like a massive overreaction. The topic is now resolved and there's been no vandalism for several days, so hopefully it will just die down. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 22:27, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

It's only been two days, though I agree that we should watch it first. Aaron Liu (talk) 22:30, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

This seems to have died now. For future reference it appears summary edits are prevented if you protect the entire board, even though they aren't if you protect only the topic. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 02:32, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

Semi protect Snippets/*

There were some IP edits for Snippets/*. Some bad users may inject these snippets with security vulnerability.--حبيشان (talk) 06:24, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

We don't generally protect pages, especially entire classes of pages, preemptively. This seems a bit like scaremongering to me. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 15:20, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Spamer

• Ameliaave9696 (talk • contribs • logs • rights • global account) posted spam topic, please block WindEwriX (talk) 10:36, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Already glocked. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 16:49, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Block request

Please block

• 31.223.133.136 (talk • contribs • logs • rights • global account). Wüstenspringmaus (talk) 18:02, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

 Done --Clump (talk) 18:22, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Recentchanges-timeout

The phab task was closed, so I think it's time to delete the system message (i.e. revert it to the original message). ToadetteEdit (talk) 10:29, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Like what happened on meta. ToadetteEdit (talk) 10:31, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

 Done Leaderboard (talk) 10:33, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Block&deletion request

Please block

• 180.180.237.32 (talk • contribs • logs • rights • global account) and delete their invalid translations. Wüstenspringmaus (talk) 17:45, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

 Done --Ameisenigel (talk) 18:00, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Block request

Please block

• VmIPc0 (talk • contribs • logs • rights • global account): Vandalism/spam-only account (AbuseLog). Wüstenspringmaus (talk) 09:49, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

Stale. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 23:15, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

Page moved - error being investigated

This page has been archived. Error resolved. There is an error loading the subpage (due to it being such a large board). The issue is being investigated. Sorry for the inconvenience, and thank you for your patience. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 17:17, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

P.s. As a reminder, the DiscussionTools system that is now working on this talkpage, provides a menu link at "Tools → Subscribe" that enables us to be notified for the creation of new Topics (documentation at Help:DiscussionTools#Page subscriptions). Some folks watching this page, might like to use that system instead or in addition to the watchlist. Hope that helps! Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 14:56, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

Archiver bot

Given that the Village Pump (and other discussion pages) transitioned from Flow to standard discussion pages, a bot that archives threads should be considered. ToadetteEdit (talk) 10:10, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Machine-translated-looking multilingual contributions

User:BonziStudios (contribs) has newly created translations in the following 27 languages, but they appear to be machine-translated:
ang, ar, de-at, el, eo, es, fa, fr, he, it, ja, ka, ko, lt, nan, nl, pl, ps, pt, pt-br, ru, sco, tr, tw, uk, yue, zh - Shirayuki (talk) 08:05, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Why not nuke all translations that were machine translated? ToadetteEdit (talk) 11:03, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

It seems that edits need to be recent to be listed in Special:Nuke. However, since more than three months have passed since the edits by the user, they are not listed and cannot be deleted in bulk.
I have reviewed and manually deleted the Japanese translations made by the user. As for translations into other languages, I am unable to determine whether they are machine translations. Shirayuki (talk) 11:31, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

I also cleaned up some Arabic translations (1 2 3). The Arabic translations were clearly unmodified machine translations from the unreliable MinT. I would support disabling automatic translation from MinT since it is making multiple issues both to reviewing translators, and readers. ToadetteEdit (talk) 12:01, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Deleting empty /LQT Archive 1 pages

As a follow-up to Topic:Yff64fw5rwjmc3ld which deleted Flow/LQT pairs where the Flow and LQT parts were both empty, there are 646 /LQT Archive 1 pages that have never had any content other than an empty header or a "this is an archive" announcement. Shall I proceed with deleting these as well? * Pppery * _{it has begun} 02:50, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

Since they have virtually no content both, it should be deleted. ToadetteEdit (talk) 06:53, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

@Pppery: Sure. Jdforrester (WMF) (talk) 13:54, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

+1. Thanks again. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 15:11, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

 Done Deleted about 650 pages via Special:Log/Flow cleanup bot and about another 100 after manual review using my own account. Some of the remaining 340 pages could probably be deleted too but I was a bit paranoid, and keeping a history of the header will be useful if I decide to follow through with my idea of converting Flow pages to wikitext with history using XML import. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 19:24, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

Unprotect

Project talk:About has been protected for a long time, I think it is time to remove the protection at the very least. ToadetteEdit (talk) 07:34, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

Reduced to semi. It seems the reason was users were asking questions that went unanswered and are more suited for other places (this can still be the case given the page name). – Ammarpad (talk) 13:23, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

empty category

This category is currently empty. The tool "MediaWiki Code search query" on this category page finds nothing, the link to the hook CentralAuthGlobalUserMerged shows that this hook has been removed.

Maybe this category page (and the one in French) can be deleted ? Mahabarata73 (talk) 14:49, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

Deleted. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 16:59, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

not the same text when I'm logged in and logged out

Sometimes I find a translation that is not "perfect" and I improve it. When I come back on this page a few days later, I still see the old text even if I refresh the page (with F5) or use another browser BUT ONLY WHEN I am logged in. When I am logged out, I can see the new translation text. It seems that this problem only occurs when I change the translated title of a page.

An example: when I am logged out, the title of this page is "Catégorie:Extensions liées à FileUpload" (it is the text that I wanted). When I am logged in (with this account), I see the old (and bad according to me) translation: "Catégorie:extensions de téléversement de fichiers".

Can someone fix my account, or explain to me what is happening and what I need to do to fix this? Mahabarata73 (talk) 15:22, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

No one can fix your account. It may be due to caching issues on your browser, you should now see "Catégorie:Extensions liées à FileUpload" as the title of the category. ToadetteEdit (talk) 19:28, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

Like I said, the problem was on several browsers so it was not a cache issue. But this page works now, thanks for the fix.

I had the same problem with this page but I just solved it by myself: I changed a translation not in the title then restored it and the title has been updated. Which means probably a bug somewhere. Mahabarata73 (talk) 13:57, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

Like I said, the problem was on several browsers so it was not a cache issue.

No, that just means it wasn't a browser cache issue. It might have been a network cache from your router, ISP, or government, or something else. Jdforrester (WMF) (talk) 14:23, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

I guess it is due to the pages' cache. Purging should help, see manual:purge for more. ToadetteEdit (talk) 19:52, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

Is it ok if I put screenshots here? Or maybe I can open a phabricator task where it is easier to add screenshots? Mahabarata73 (talk) 21:45, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

Another empty category

This category is currently empty, a search of extensions using this hook give no result: \bUserGetAllRights(Hook)?\b - MediaWiki Codesearch (Extensions).

Maybe the page could be deleted? Mahabarata73 (talk) 22:17, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

I don't think it's worth it since the hook is still in MediaWiki, and an extension using it could be written at any time. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 01:18, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

Ok. Mahabarata73 (talk) 14:02, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

Flow cleanup continues

Next up on the list of tasks to do before the Flow maintenance script runs: make sure pages that on pages that have an existing archive structure the Flow board becomes part of that archive structure rather than becoming its own alien thing and orphaning the existing archive structure behind a pointer to a Flow board. I've manually processed pages with odd archiving setups (of which there are annoyingly large number), leaving around 200 pages where there's a pre-existing /Archive or /Archive 1 page. It seems to me that these can be processed automatically by:

• If the old archive is named "/Archive", move it to "/Archive 1" since it's not the only archive. (does a redirect need to be left behind here)
• Move the Flow board to "/Archive 2".
• If there's an old "/LQT Archive 1" page like Extension_talk:Include, then move it back for the history (and then needs manual review on how to update any pointers). Otherwise, create the page with {{Archives }}.

An example of an already-processed page is Extension talk:GuidedTour (I did that manually because the archives have no space in the name). Examples of pages yet to be processed are Extension talk:WikiArticleFeeds and Extension talk:Auto Create Category Pages

Does this seem like the right course of action? * Pppery * _{it has begun} 22:49, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

This should be the last cleanup run I do, but then I thought that was the case several times before and then thought of something new. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 23:09, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

I should agree. Moving multiple pages manually is lengthly and takes alot of time. ToadetteEdit (talk) 19:54, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

I agree with this proposal.

Re: "(does a redirect need to be left behind here)" - I think it would be fine to leave/create redirects, in order to avoid having to manually check for incoming links on each of them. Plus I believe the ancient essay w:WP:Redirects are cheap is still generally accurate.

Thanks again. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 20:48, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

Done. I ended up deleting most of the /LQT pages rather than moving them. And I got sidetracked by more pages with odd archival setups. I think that at this point for every Flow page the maintenance script will move there aren't any other archives left so the maintenance script's action is a reasonable one. And hopefully I'm done now. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 01:24, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

@Pppery: Thanks for all your work on this, it's been great to clean up so much old cruft. Jdforrester (WMF) (talk) 15:10, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

I was wrong. I found a lot more bits of old spam/junk during the post-cleanup-script review. Going to semi-automatically delete another few hundred to thousand pages of junk in user talk namespace. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 22:24, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Running a bot to delete 1887 user talk pages of users with <100 global edits that have never been touched by anyone with >500 global edits. I manually reviewed the content of each page beforehand, and excluded 666 pages (most of which are requests for support that should have gone to the support desk years ago). * Pppery * _{it has begun} 03:31, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

And now done. I spot-checked some of the remaining Flow pages and was not inclined to delete any of them. So I think that route is satisfied and the remaining pages will be converted to wikitext sometime. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 23:23, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

Can I use mediawiki.org to host templates?

The en wiki citation templates made a change a few years ago that make it a lot harder to set up citation templates locally and for developers. The citation templates now require a file that's on commons, which local installations and third party wikis aren't usually set-up for.

I've fixed my local installations but I was wondering if I could put my "fixed" templates online somewhere to make it easier for third parties and developers to download... is "Module:" namespace only for stuff actually being used by mediawiki.org? Could/should I instead host the modules and templates as a subpage of Citoid, i.e. Citoid/Module:Citation (and is that an okay use of mediawiki.org? Since task T121470 does not exist yet. Mvolz (WMF) (talk) 13:12, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

It's fine with me, but make sure to link to the originals in the edisummaries and add some documentation, for when someone finds it in 3 years and wonders why we have this duplicate :D —TheDJ (Not WMF) (talk • contribs) 13:36, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

templates with 2 categories but only one is visible

If you look at the source code of this template, you will see that there are 2 categories inside "includeonly" tags:

• Category:MediaWiki hooks
• Category:Undocumented MediaWiki hooks

But on pages using this template, for example this page, only the first category is visible.

Same problem with this template.

Do I miss something ? Mahabarata73 (talk) 23:53, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

The second category is hidden. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 02:44, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

Why? The template says "if you know about it then add a doc" (I summarize). But if no one can see this category, don't you think that limits the interventions on these pages? Mahabarata73 (talk) 21:59, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

I don't think the logic chain you're following is especially clear, but I've unhidden the category anyway. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 22:01, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

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