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Legacy revision objects in extensions

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Pppery (talkcontribs)
Clump (talkcontribs)

I don't think any are in use at this point so I suppose it's ok to archive them.

Pppery (talkcontribs)

Thanks. I've submitted a request to archive MadLib. These days this sort of thing is better done in a template or Lua module than an extension anyway.

DebugTemplates was sufficiently interesting to me that I decided it was worth my time to fix it up for now: gerrit:1054070

Clump (talkcontribs)

Ok. Thanks for fixing DebugTemplates. It was motivated by the pain of tracking down errors in some massive template nests, but it was hard to convince the site(s) I intended it for to install it, let alone use it.

Lionel Cristiano (talkcontribs)

Hello Clump, I am translating English pages into Turkish. Can I have the right to autopatroller?

Clump (talkcontribs)

Hello Lionel. What for?

Lionel Cristiano (talkcontribs)

Classic answer: no need to patrol :)

Clump (talkcontribs)

Autopatrol isn't used much here, and certainly I don't use it, so sorry but I don't see any point.

Lionel Cristiano (talkcontribs)

Thanks for ur answer.

Kleshkreikne (talkcontribs)

Hi, I just wanna know why you undid my edits on the user warning templates. In my opinion, saying "hello" to every user warning templaes especially in the level 3 and 4 templates would hurt the user more because the user would do more harm than good if he says hello. This is meant to be more serious, not more relaxed.

Clump (talkcontribs)

Hello. Your sentence/logic is not clear, but to address what I think you are asking: I don't agree that the politeness interferes with or devalues the message, nor is it the intention of those templates to hurt the user. It is possible to be serious and still be polite.

Pppery (talkcontribs)

I've restored Kleshkreikne's edit. I see no reason to go out of one's way to be polite to vandals. And user warning templates really don't need to exist on this wiki anyway.

Clump (talkcontribs)

Please do not do that. Those templates would/should presumably be used to inform people when there is some doubt. While there's no need to be especially polite to vandals, as you indicate, those are also the cases when the templates are not necessary. I don't see a need to remove/reduce the textual politeness of templates that are specifically aimed at cases when the user's intention is ambiguous.

Pppery (talkcontribs)

{{Uw-vandalism1}} is aimed at cases when the user's intention is ambiguous. The others aren't. Or at least that's how it works on the English Wikipedia.

Clump (talkcontribs)

If the intention is unambiguous then there's no need to use a template, and that logic follows through all levels of the template. If someone bothers to use a template then they're trying to be informative, and in those cases the inclusion of a greeting merely follows common communication protocol. I don't see any need to change it, and do not agree with a motivation of trying to "hurt" the recipient by being less polite, however absurd the idea that removing "Hello" achieves that goal may be.

If you want to delete the templates altogether that would make sense. Beyond that I would appreciate you restoring the status quo prior to seeking some form of consensus from others for the change.

Pppery (talkcontribs)

Fine. I've reverted my edits. I'm still not convinced this is anything other than faux friendliness, but this is not worth spending more effort arguing about.

Summary by Clump

Thanks, done.

M7 (talkcontribs)
Ternera (talkcontribs)
Clump (talkcontribs)

Thanks; blocked.

DT elppA (talkcontribs)

Hello, why did you revert my edits?

Clump (talkcontribs)

Hi. The hard redirect has been there for 11 years, and you gave no meaningful edit reason. Why did you make them?

DT elppA (talkcontribs)

I think redirects to other wikis should be soft redirects. Is this wrong?

Clump (talkcontribs)

No, on retrospect it is fine, and seems to have been done in other cases too. Sorry for the revert.

DT elppA (talkcontribs)

Thank you.

Ternera (talkcontribs)
Clump (talkcontribs)

Thanks; done.

what happened to my user talk page?

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Commuter3 (talkcontribs)
Clump (talkcontribs)

Filled with nonsense (just numbers, random characters/words, etc) from random IPs.

Commuter3 (talkcontribs)

In the deleted revisions, what did they try to say to me then? It is now months too late (approaching half a year) for me to read my talk page after simply forgetting to check MediaWiki then.

Clump (talkcontribs)

Nothing meaningful, but restored for your viewing pleasure.

Commuter3 (talkcontribs)

Oh. It is just some random number strings... but deleting it four times for two sections? There were probably not even that many edits done in the first place yet.

Clump (talkcontribs)

6 edits by 4 distinct IPs. It's hard to predict when a new, different IP will show up and decide to recreate a deleted page.

Commuter3 (talkcontribs)

Now that I have checked each revison (and combined all the revisions together), it has occurred to me that the talk page has actually been revamped several times.

[WMF Board of Trustees - Call for feedback: Community Board seats] Meetings with MediaWiki and Wikitech communities

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MediaWiki message delivery (talkcontribs)

The Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees is organizing a call for feedback about community selection processes between February 1 and March 14. While the Wikimedia Foundation and the movement have grown about five times in the past ten years, the Board’s structure and processes have remained basically the same. As the Board is designed today, we have a problem of capacity, performance, and lack of representation of the movement’s diversity. Our current processes to select individual volunteer and affiliate seats have some limitations. Direct elections tend to favor candidates from the leading language communities, regardless of how relevant their skills and experience might be in serving as a Board member, or contributing to the ability of the Board to perform its specific responsibilities. It is also a fact that the current processes have favored volunteers from North America and Western Europe. In the upcoming months, we need to renew three community seats and appoint three more community members in the new seats. This call for feedback is to see what processes can we all collaboratively design to promote and choose candidates that represent our movement and are prepared with the experience, skills, and insight to perform as trustees?

In this regard, two rounds of feedback meetings are being hosted to collect feedback from the technical communities in Wikimedia. Two rounds are being hosted with the same agenda, to accomodate people from various time zones across the globe. We will be discussing ideas proposed by the Board and the community to address the above mentioned problems. Please sign-up according to whatever is most comfortable to you. You are welcome to participate in both as well!

Also, please share this with other volunteers who might be interested in this. Let me know if you have any questions. KCVelaga (WMF), 14:37, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Justman10000 (talkcontribs)

Could you stop reverting ligitimate edits on my part? Or at least give reasons as before?

Clump (talkcontribs)

The removal of old maintainer info does not mean unmaintained. Extension:Translate is maintained by the language team.

Justman10000 (talkcontribs)

And why is this not mentioned anywhere?

Clump (talkcontribs)

I didn't have trouble finding it. Look at the code commit history and you'll see it's active.