I haven't been able to get into an agreement with P858snake (Topic:Y8gnvyzbtx9d9ugw), but I'm concerned with this change. I don't know of another wiki that takes such a punitive approach (i.e, allowing very few users to create a local userpage), and in my opinion, suitably established users (say those with 100 edits at least) should be able to create local pages here. Hence putting this here for discussion.
Topic on Project:Village Pump/Flow
I support having the filter in its current state. My impression from watching the abuse log is that filter 95 blocks of attempts at creating user pages that are meaningful are rare, and blocks of attempts at creating user pages that specifically meaningful and relevant to this wiki in particular and wouldn't be better off in meta or elsewhere are pretty much non-existent. To back that up somewhat at least I looked at the filter 95 blocks currently showing in the first page of the abuse log:
- 31 were new users, less than a few days old
- 16 spam
- 9 nonsense/gibberish/test
- 6 personal info (name/cv/email)
- 5 were from older accounts, at least a few weeks old (but only 1 had a large number of edits overall)
- 1 blank
- 2 off-topic article
- 1 personal info (street address)
- 1 spam
From that sample it does seem that a weaker filter would still mostly be effective, but it also does not support any particular need to weaken the filter either.
I am strongly opposed to having it for all but new users because I am an example of a user with a valid need for a local user page without being the last of my kind.
I will be reducing it to 20 edits again if User:P858snake does not object here.
I also second what User:Pppery said about how this should be discussed here rather than on IRC. IRC logs are not permanently retained and it is not transparent.
Well, Clump immediately reverted Jasper's change (which was to completely disable the filter, oddly).
Yes, both those events were well prior to Jasper's two posts above.