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2004

Future directions

Related discussion from February 2004 that was not copied to this archive may be read at en:Wikipedia talk:MediaWiki future directions.

Edit conflict merging

Nice to see this. Only one query: will this feature require the presence of an external diff3 utility or is the code included in MediaWiki? If the former, is it freely available for Windows? Phil 15:51, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)

It will require diff3. It is available for Windows as part of Cygwin.--Eloquence 17:26, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)

I tested it using UnxUtils, not Cygwin. It should work either way though. -- Tim Starling 00:14, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)

New variables

{{SITENAME}} will show the site name. What if someone creates [[Template:SITENAME]] and then uses {{SITENAME}} or {{msg:SITENAME}}? Angela 16:16, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)

The site name, not the template, will be displayed. To display the template, {{Template:SITENAME}} could be used. -- Tim Starling 00:14, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)

"Big up" to the developers

Can't wait for the future to be now. Pcb21 16:55, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)

I love the new partial match function--I accidentally typed SemiBugText, and it offerred the correct SemiBugTest, which was what I was really looking for. 68.123.121.5 05:53, 29 May 2004 (UTC)

D'oh! Didn't notice I wasn't logged in. Niteowlneils 05:54, 29 May 2004 (UTC)

WikiHiero

When do you planed to add WikiHiero to Wikimedia? It's already working on test server (with <hiero></hiero>). There is anything else that must be done first? A☮ineko 04:47, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Yes, it'll be in 1.3. Do you want to write about it, or will I? -- Tim Starling 05:56, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)

As I speak English like an old Egyptian mummy, I prefere you write about it ;o) I will try to finish WikiHiero guide page as soon as possible. A☮ineko 15:50, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)

What's the programme for keeping TestWikipedia up-to-date with the latest version of WikiHiero: there're some outstanding (in all senses :-) bugs which are apparently fixed in the latter but not on the former. --Phil 08:53, 11 May 2004 (UTC)

Just updated wikihiero again to latest cvs code. -- Gwicke 15:18, 11 May 2004 (UTC)

Will the templates accept parameters?

This page does not explicitly say so, but I have heard they will. Pcb21 09:13, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)

I also heard about that. A☮ineko 15:50, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Yes, templates will accept parameters. -- Tim Starling 05:28, 11 Apr 2004 (UTC)

When will PPCHTeX etc be included?

PPCHTeX, Lilypond, TIPA, etc. support were displayed on Wikisophia, but that site's vanished. When is the Wikitex functionality coming to Wikipedia? What happened to the Wikitex sandbox? How come the hieroglyphics people get their syntax, but the chemistry and music folks still don't? Grendelkhan 16:12, 18 Apr 2004 (UTC)

It's a conspiracy among the MediaWiki developers. We secretly loathe chemistry and sheet music because of bad childhood experiences. Hieroglyphs, on the other hand, have been featured in some really cool movies (The Mummy, The Mummy Returns, The Mummy vs. Godzilla etc.), so that was one primary motivation in including them.

It is also related to the fact that the code on Wikisophia has been written by one individual who has not communicated with us about it beyond announcing it, that it has never been released, that it has been applied to an unknown, probably outdated MediaWiki version, and that we have no idea whether the code is vulnerable to denial of service attacks and security exploits. If you want this code in MediaWiki, you should contact the person who wrote it, which would be Peter Danenberg, who can be reached at danenberg at mitdasein dot com.--Eloquence 20:46, 18 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Update: Some Wikitex stuff now checked in. If it works it has a pretty good chance of making it into 1.4.--Eloquence 23:42, 31 May 2004 (UTC)

Which stuff? Is it on TestWiki for testing? --Phil 13:26, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Where? It's not up on test.wikipedia.org, so far as I can tell. (Also, I don't know what syntax it's using; is there a short doc for it anywhere? I noticed that it's in the CVS, under 'extensions', but not checked in under the main tree. When I downloaded the CVS (a few days ago, but after July 1), it seemed to need some polishing to integrate it---specifically, the parser doesn't have support for the <rend> or <chem> or whatever tags yet. Is it live somewhere, so we can bang on it and try to break it? Grendelkhan 16:22, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Recently got Wikisophia back up, and WikiTeX integrated with Phase 3; my understanding was that <rend music></rend> should be replaced by <music></music> before integration. I'll post a patch, nevertheless, for early adopters; a slight infelicity with page preview to be worked out. Danenberg 12:01, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Update! WikiTeX now supports XML of the form <go></go>, and is available for download at http://wikitex.org (http://wikisophia.org for testing and development).  We've added support for go, Feynman diagrams, XyMTeX and TengTeX; SVG and GnuPlot are next up. --Danenberg 03:54, 7 September 2004 (UTC)

Numbered namespaces

"{{ns:}}: expands to a local namespace name. For example, {{ns:1}} or {{ns:Talk}} is expanded to the local name for the talk namespace"

What's the point of this? MrJones 15:38, 2 May 2004 (UTC)

If you're on a wiki whose language you don't speak, you could just use [[{{ns:2}}:Blah]] to create a link in the Project: namespace. Dori | Talk 04:58, 11 May 2004 (UTC)

Note about test server

Should this page mention that 1.3.0 is being tested on http://test.wikipedia.org ? I would have added it myself but I'm not a developer and didn't wan't to step on any toes. - 130.194.13.103

Preferences

Samples of tabs using JS. The first one has a nearly usable fall back when JS is disabled, the second one is still missing this.

• http://www.onlinetools.org/tools/domtabdata/
• http://phase3.mormo.org/tabs.html

--JeLuF 04:33, 11 May 2004 (UTC)

Importance of forum-system for better discussions ?

How important is a forum like system ? Who is interested in it ? Has anyone asked for it before ? Is there a better page to talk about it ? Help ! --Betacortex 18:28, 20 May 2004 (UTC)

I think forums are one of the most important parts of any web site. What other media offers users to have such of an interaction. We can easily get by the gate-keepers. --31 October 2004

I agree. Maybe at least of a more intuitive GUI for the discussion page, like an indent button (is typing colons really intuitive for a newbie?) or "reply" button in the Talk pages. Forum software has gone through the user interface testing already and defacto interface style has emerged. A plugin for a basic forum system like Simple Machines (SMF) or phpBB or PunBB would be perfect. --7 January 2005

Version 1.4

In my opinion for Wikipdia users WikiCommons, single user for multiple languages and a search function are the most important issues. -- Nichtich 22:01, 31 May 2004 (UTC)

Template: and MediaWiki:

Starting today, on the italian Wikipedia, all Mediawiki:xxx pages are locked for editing (except for admins). The Template:xxx pages contain a reditect to the respective Mediawiki:xxx page but are editable. I see un english wikipedia it works the other way round. Mediawiki:xxx pages are locked but contain a redirect to Template:xxx pages that are editable. Should we wait for a script to run or should we switch the pages manually? And wouldn't be nice to post an advice in the community portal of the various edition before doing this kind of things, so that people doesn't have to spend time to uderstand what's happening and what they shoul do? (Or maybe it's our fault because we still don't check so often for news in metawiki? In this case we would appreciate a sort of tutor that explain us how to use it efficently). Thanks,

Snowdog 00:03, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)

The mailing lists are also a good place to look for such announcements, i.e. [1] and mailarchive:wikitech-l/2004-June/010395.html, as are the IRC channels (#wikipedia and #mediawiki mostly). Dori | Talk 00:23, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Thanks. Snowdog 11:55, 4 June 2004 (UTC)

Tag

I think that it would be nice if we had a small icon to insert a template tag on the edit toolbar that would insert {{}} for the selected word --4 June 2004

Languages and localisation

what has Languages and localisation to do with edit conflicts? --Fristu 08:26, 5 July 2004

Fixed. Some text in the edit box was not rendered, apparently due to the variables $wgSiteName and $wgMetaNamespace in the text. --Patrick 09:00, 5 Jul 2004 (UTC)

The import of Special:Import

Special:Import is potentially useful for the Minnan Wikipedia. We're currently at a loss over how to migrate articles from an external and experimental wiki to Minnan without losing the history. Doing an Export-Import for each of the 100+ articles has been suggested. In terms of encoding this would be UTF-8 to UTF-8 (i.e. no re-encoding necessary). A-giâu 05:36, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Does anyone know exactly when the Import function will be available? --30 November 2004

I would also like this feature. This way I can copy the more general Help and Copyright pages from other wiki's I've made in stead of making them all over again. Can this feature become available? -- Redge | Talk 09:40, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Support for integration with legacy systems

When running different web services like chat, forum, and wiki, you would think of a common user administration. Unfortunately, the table and field names in mediawiki are hardcoded into various source files. Even the user table is spread all over special page scripts. For our local wiki, at least for the user table I implemented an abstraction to allow configuring its name and attributes. Of course, I followed a simple approach, which is not too generic. As a result, SQL-Queries look like the following:

$sql = 'SELECT '.User::Field('user_id').' as user_id'.
       ' FROM '.User::Table().
       ' WHERE '.User::Field('user_name')." = '".wfStrencode($s)."'";

I'd appriciate such kind of schema abstraction for legacy integration issues in one of the next versions. It is not that difficult to do and eases changes. It further may support the issue of Database abstraction. I wonder if anyone else is interested in this topic or is working on a similar task. Else, this might go into a seperate topic for detailled discussion or into the feature requests. --Dwight 12:31, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Use the authentication plugin interface. --brion 02:42, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Category Improvements

There are too many open issues with categories. One cannot use the categories currently on a comfortable way. Where is an appropriate place to share my ideas? Grigory Grin 20:29, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Btw see category flatten. --grin 21:06, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

2005

ClassWiki

As a graduate student beginning my teaching career, I can't help but think that a properly-implemented wiki would be an excellent way to encourage collaboration on academic projects, to motivate students with the prospect of useful, public results, and to produce quality writing for deserving projects such as WikiMedia.

I would need some special features in order to assign a grade for wiki work, however; in principle, these would work the way that copyrights are supposed to. I considered trying to download an engine and implement these myself, but, since the work only has to be done once to be useful to a large number of people, and I don't really have time to learn the mechanics of it all, I thought I might collaborate with this community.

I'm imagining an individual "ClassWiki" as a short-lived entity, run by an administrator/instructor and only accessible to members of the class, until the due date passes, at which point the instructor is given the information necessary for grading, and the ClassWiki's identity is subsumed into a larger project such as Wikipedia. The larger project would be visible to the ClassWiki, so that outside links could be made, but the classwiki would remain hidden until finished to help ensure that all work inside it was from the class.

Do you think it would be worthwhile to impliment such a thing here?--Polyparadigm 08:05, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

With some modifications to the wiki software i could work, infact the mediawiki fondation could run a wiki for it, and you as a teacher would fill out say a form on a special page, and when it sumbits you get a namespace specifically for your class, each student would have a login, and though another special page you could give them access to the class namespace where the students can do that, and you as the instructor would have admins privlegdes only in that namespace thogh, so you culd protec or delete pages in your class namespace ect. You might propose it.--71.32.5.180 19:52, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

For the public record: I own the domain names schoolswiki.org/.com and was planning to use them to host the controversial schools articles which are refugees from Wikipedia. However, I like Polyparadigm's idea, and I'd be happy to offer a venue for it. I have a test wiki running right now, but not live on the net as I want to get the basic pages sorted out first, and an import bot to grab articles from my local wikipedia mirror. Now I'll email Polyparadigm to see if he's interested! --Kingboyk 00:36, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

I've been working for the last year on a system on a system very similar to what I think you intend ClassWiki to be (wiki + courses/faculty/students + gradebook), which I've been calling Wikiacademia. It should be on sourceforge this summer sometime, and I'm planning to describe it at this summer's Wikimania conference. Although it's not quite ready for public realease, a demo course is visible at http://cs.marlboro.edu/courses/demo_course/home . Jim Mahoney 16:59, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Version change

Now that Wikipedia is running on version 1.4 gamma, how do we know what we need to change from the way it was in 1.3? Which functions have died, which have moved, which new texts have been added, etc.? Aliter 02:46, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Delete?

If this page is "out of date" and "never very accurate", then why do we have it? More importantly, why is it linked to from Goings-on and the MediaWiki header? Brianjd 03:42, 2005 Mar 6 (UTC)

Suggestion about the summary of the user's contribution

sometime we need to show the summary of a user's contribution but not the details.

so we can show some information of the contribution. such as the registed date or the date of the first time edit, the total edit times, how many in the artical page and how many in the talk page. how many pages is the new page start by this user. we can show this infomation at the top of Special:Contributions pages！

Thank you for your attention!--Vipuser 09:10, 2005 Jun 27 (UTC)

GIS

Since version 4.1 mysql suports geographical Data according to the OpenGIS-standards. Of course there are other (free) databases like postgis/postgresql. According to the existence of these developments on spatial extensions for databases a gis database for wikipedia/wikidata should now/soon be integrated into mediawiki.

• http://www.mysql.com/doc/en/Spatial_extensions_in_MySQL.html
• http://www.opengis.de
• http://www.postgresql.de
• http://postgis.refractions.net/
• w:en:GIS

134.106.146.46 08:02, 27 September 2005 (UTC) =de:Benutzer:Arcy

Roadmap?

I got to this page because it said it was a roadmap for wiki development. But it doesn't seem to be. Is there a development roadmap anywhere?

For example, is there any sense when the focus will shift to version 2.0 with Oracle support? Are there plans to have versions between 1.6 and 2.0?

Thanks. Russ Abbott 23:06, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

2006

Is FCKeditor in MediaWiki 1.6

According to MediaWiki roadmap, FCKeditor is in 1.6 which is running in WikiMediaCommons. However, when I insert the __USE_EDITOR__ line in the sandbox and save the edit, I don't see the FCKeditor buttons in subsequent edit pages of Sandbox? Am I missing something?

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Linking elements

Can you consider in a future development of Mediawiki a way to make the linking of elements easier?

A major problem is that users can't remember easily the names of the files or the many articles linked to another. Also the MediaWiki syntax is also problematic for users that refuses to learn new software beyond a the use of MS-Word or a browser (they don't have to learn how to code a page). I believe that wikis should be for anyone who needs to use it, but that doesn't mean that they have to learn a new way of programming or encoding text. (thinking in non-geek users, or users that have a basic knowledge of using a computer). So if you can, please try to solve that.

Thanks. --27 June 2006

1.10

You do realise that 1.10 is not the standard nomenclature for a product release after version 1.9, right? It should be 1.91 or 1.9a or even 2.0. 1.10 feels like a step backwards. Perhaps it was just a typo. Chris Fullmer 21:41, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

It is very common to number in this way, particularly in the open source community. E.g. Bugzilla (2.8 was followed by 2.10 - they only release even numbered versions), MAME (0.99 has recently been superceded by 0.100) Linux (1.2.8 followed by 1.2.10) and many others. Each component is treated as a separate number, rather than the whole being treated as a decimal value (which is impossible when there are more than two components, anyway). --HappyDog 16:44, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Correct. Some people dont really find this system intuitiv ... but its logical :) After 1.9 comes 1.10, 1.11, ... until you get a big development-step to 2.0. What you think of, is 1.1.0, not 1.10. --Nyks 13:27, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Furthermore, in some languages, the dot is not used as the decimal separator and there is absolutely no ambiguity: 1.10 cannot be confused with 1,10... Bonne journée! --27 October 2006

the future?

Can anyone comment on using MediaWiki as a digital archive repository? Not so much from a suitability point of view as much as how much we can rely on the software performing for the foreseeable future. Is it a wise move to put lots of (historical, socialogical) archive material in the MediaWiki format, or is this just asking for trouble in terms of compatibility, etc? (i..e. is lock-in a worry with this software?) Sorry if this isn't really the right place to ask this, but I couldn't find a better. Thanks. (--Wikipedia:User:Samwilson 2006-08-02)

Lock-in, and do it now, before we sell out to Microsoft. I'm serious, I've got an offer here... ;)

At present, MediaWiki stores content in the database in a manner which means text is still accessible should Vibber et al. go nuts and sell all our souls to Bill's blokes. Since Wikipedia is the number one customer for MediaWiki, and since Wikimedia are committed to free and open access to information for all, it's quite likely that MediaWiki is going to remain sane and straightforward about storing data. 164.11.204.52 21:26, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

What about Web2.0 (Ajax)?

The headline says it all. My question: is there any plans to use Ajax for Mediawiki to develop a more userfriendly software? I think new Ajax-driven pages is much more userfriendlier! --D98rolb 5 October 2006

There are, in fact, some features making use of AJAX, including extensions which are also live on large sites such as Wikipedia. AJAX features will be implemented according to performance friendliness, overall demand, developer interest, the ability to provide functionality which degrades gracefully, and whether or not the feeling exists that a Web 2.0 approach is the best for solving a given problem. 164.11.204.52 21:09, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Release dates?

Hey, with the oct release date for 1.8 coming fast - Does the active cvs maintainers have any ETA for final release or even a changelog with major/minor changes to the releases.

What new awesome features can we expect from Mediawiki :) 149.135.61.177 06:25, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

You don't seem to be capable of searching too hard. The changes to the software are always listed in the RELEASE-NOTES which can be checked out of Subversion, or viewed when released in the distribution tarball. robchurch | talk 05:00, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Templates?

I still searched hours to edit the footer (links to privacy policy, ...). Is it possible to make such section (footer, navigation, toolbox etc) to a kind of template for easy edit? (a good example for this is the new beta version of blogger). captainslater --217.116.64.48 12:27, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Empty Roadmap in a Roadmap-Site ...

An empty roadmap, which is linked directly on www.mediawiki.org :( Could anyone, who knows it, add the major new planed features? --Nyks 13:30, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

I have updated the page to reflect the current situation. I will also remove the link from our front page. --HappyDog 18:40, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Permalinks for Versions

(Explanation for this.) I think it would be very useful to have a page on mediawiki.org for each version, containing a changelog / an overview over planned changes. A permalink that can be used to link to, e.g. from weblogs or other outside sources. It's also a pity that it's virtually impossible for a visitor of this site to get an idea what changes are coming with v1.9, at a time when v1.9alpha is already powering this site. A dedicated page MediaWiki 1.9.* would change that. --Helge 19:47, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

The reason for this is that there is no official roadmap, and no official items that will appear in a specific future version. Here is a recent exchange I had with Brion (lead developer) on wikitech-l:

Mark Clements wrote:
> Are there any kind of concrete plans for specific future versions of
> MediaWiki, or is it just a matter of "we've got a bunch of bugs and feature
> requests and we'll do the ones we feel like".

Generally we have a few things floating around which we'd like to make sure we
get in, some of which happen sooner and others which happen later.

There's not a concrete master plan at this time.

> The reason I ask is that http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_roadmap is
> quite prominently linked to from the main page of mediawiki.org, but
> contains no useful content.  It has dates for versions 1.9 and 1.10, but
> under 'planned milestones' they both just say 'no plans yet'.

Please remove any such links you see to that kind of page; they're never
official or maintained.

Furthermore, past versions can be seen at Release notes (each with its own sub-page). --HappyDog 13:45, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Ok, but at least present and past versions could and should IMO get a permalink each - and they kind of have already (as I just discovered). Linking version numbers to those pages instead (no matter if they exist already or not, it's a wiki after all ;-) would be cool. Speaking of it, i'd also link the version numbers displayed on the main page. --Helge 19:00, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Some wishlist notes

• Web-based configuration and farm manager (to decentralize some administrative work)
• Support for renaming images (bug 709)
• Parser rewrite
• Navigatonal images (bug 639)
• Expiry for protection (bug 4133)
• Fix various section edit link display issues
• Support for protecting page titles from creation (bug 2919)
• Framework for securely running extensions such as WikiTeX

...--Eloquence 11:55, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Internal links, produce preview bubble of the first line of page to be directed to.--Rovo 16:51, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

wikipedia:User:Lupin/popups.js already does this.-- 24.57.132.221 18:42, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

WYSIWYG

This seems to be the biggest challenge ... yet no mention? Come on!!!

WYSIWYG is the problem of the moment. Focus on the markup and the parser. You can improve and move toward WYSIWYG!!! --20 November 2006

Correct, WYSIWYG is not currently on our short-to-medium-term roadmap. --Brion VIBBER 12:19, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Which is a pity, I might add. --Helge 19:13, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

2007

InfoEng

Hello... I should have posted here first, perhaps, but as a wiki newbie I posted a change to the roadmap. I am working to implement information currency, described at http://infoeng.sf.net/information-currency-rfc.txt and http://infoeng.sf.net/information-currency-trading-rfc.txt. I've developed icsvn, and I'm hoping that wiki ic will at least be available for possible integration.

I'm envisioning a scrolling market display that pops up over a mediawiki entry... with the market for the mediawiki entry ic being displayed at the popup, enabling the casual user to perceive the group market consensus on the mediawiki concept.

I'm trying to get that done by the time of 1.11 for evaluation and potential integration, but I've got to start somewhere. --JPatrickBedell 21:05, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

This was the corresponding change … --:Bdk: 12:31, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Nothing like that will ever be part of MediaWiki; that's just silly.

If you want it on your own wiki feel free to make your own extension, but... whatevah. --Brion VIBBER 13:17, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

"by end of year"

With the timeframe for support for revision tagging, does "by end of year?" mean end of 2006, end of 2007, or end of whatever year it currently is? AGrimm 22:25, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

That was vaguely targeting end of 2006, but it's ended up sliding. There's a new programmer on it, we're hoping to see it ready for demoing and public testing in a month or two from what I heard. --brion 22:16, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Should be ready soon. Aaron 06:45, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

LocalReplication

Hi,

I'm using mediawiki in my enterprise. I'have a problematic:

How can I work on my mediawiki at home. How can users work on mediawiki in disconnect mode ?

My suggestion is : using a Replication mode (as Lotus can do it for example with its .nsf files). My idea is to include a new feature:

1. Using a global diffbetween a master site (on the server) and the replication site (on the client).
2. An assistant on the master site (a link) allows the user to install a replication on its computer on the fly.
3. An assitant on the replication site allows user to synchronize master and replication sites.

What do you think about this ?

Sorry for my poor english ....

Salokine (salokine . terata at free . fr) --09:54, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

It would be nice to have, but would be hard to implement with the current structure, and it's outside of mediawiki's main goals.

• Automatically synchronizing wikis would probably be doable - Special:Export and Special:Import can be used to copy data from one to the other, a special import mode with conflict detection and merging would be feasable (although it might require the XML representation to be extended).
• But MediaWiki has no "offline" mode, and is not likely to get one. Sure, MediaWiki can be installed locally, but it still required MySQL, Apache and PHP to run.
• MediaWikis main objective is to provide an online platform for collaboratively collecting and editing informational content. More specifically, it's goal is to support WikiMedia projects like Wikipedia. Providing ways of synchronizing data sets between "working copied" falls outside mediawiki's scope and is typically handeled by revision management software or replication middleware. Maybe MediaWiki could be made to work on top of one of thse, but it would not be a simple task.

Basically, it seems MediaWiki is not the right tool for what you are trying to do. -- Duesentrieb ⇌ 11:36, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

I disagree completely, dear Duesentrieb:

• This feature is absolutely essential. MediaWiki has become a good tool for knowledge and content management. There is life beyond Wikipedia.
• MediaWiki DOES have an offline mode, which is the Wiki on a stick ! And exactly here the necessity for synchronizing with a main (backup) version becomes essential.
• For every online tool after a while the request comes up: How can I use it if temporarily offline.
• MediaWiki DOES have a sophisticated revision management system, so the request falls within the scope of MediaWiki.
• Ok: I agree on ONE single point: This new idea is not on the roadmap of Wikipedia driven MediaWiki developers.

--10 November 2007

I searching a Wiki with exact this features, and i was suprised that mediawiki does not have such a feature. I think that there are many intresting possibilities with such a feature. --Lowfyr (webmaster (at) lowfyr DOT de) 8 March 2008

SMW

Is it planned to force the development of the SMW Extension so that it can get started to use at Wikipedia? 195.3.97.222 15:36, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

There are no plans currently. We will cross that bridge when it comes. Aaron 21:48, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

This would be very very cool. SMW seems to have matured lately, imo. 83.233.97.210 00:44, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Mediawiki 1.11 planned for July 07 still?

Cannot wait to get my hands on flaggedrevs extension:

• Will it go stable once MW 1.11 will be released?
• Will that happen in July still ? --20 July 2007

It will be out in august. Though the extension itself is still in testing. Aaron 07:23, 22 August 2007 (UTC)