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Did not upgrade other extensions. Now works just like a charm. Thanks!

Hey!

After the upgrade MW from 1.39.3 to 1.41.1 the Cite extension stopped to work.

I have upgraded it to the 1.41 branch, but it does not work. It throws "Unknown error" on many pages.

Disabling this extension in LocalSettings is the only workaround (if it is appropriate to call it so) :)

Please, kindly, give a clue how to get it work in 1.41.1.

Many thanks!

I am having errors with the Extension:CITE. Any suggestions why?

Photo:

https://imgur.com/a/huQOWPD

Hard to tell. A file with the name Cite_body.php doesn't exist any more since 2016, MediaWiki version 1.28. My best guess is an incompatibility where the MediaWiki base software was upgraded, but not the extension. Please refer to Manual:Upgrading to get help upgrading your server. Manual:Security explains why this is important.

Sorry this is probably an ignorant question but is there a way to adjust the css so that the footnote reference presents as a simple digit like so¹ and without the square brackets like so^[1]? ~~~~

I haven't looked into changing the footnote reference formatting, but I wrote my own reference templates to format them any way I wanted. It works with two templates. re and rf. You can see them in action here. La Venciclopedia

sorry for my delay in replying. That seems really clever. I got a bit lost on the "plantilla" part. This seems like completely new magic to me! But I see the idea, for sure. Thanks for letting me know. And Cool site by the way. ElectricRay (talk) 16:39, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

Edit: I just discovered the idea of parserfunctions after only 15 years editing my own wiki!

Hello there. I would like to know if there is a way to hide references to unregistered users. I have found some copy the references but refuse to cite my website.

I've thought maybe it's a good idea to restrict access to the Reflist template, but I'm not sure how to do that. I'd be glad if somebody could help me out.

Yes, but you must use hack for it with using extension Extension:ParserFunctions and Extension:MyVariables.

Hi there. I have tried doing so, but the references still show up automatically. Haven't found a way to prevent Cite from adding them.

You add example code, please. I use next code for it:

{{#if:{{CURRENTLOGGEDUSER}}
|Wikicode for registered users
|Wikicode for anonymous
}}

Yeah, I did the same, but using ifeq (which provides similar results). However, the references list still appears to unregistered users because it is added automatically, I presume by the extension itself.

I have reviewed the extension code and found no easy way (parameters) to prevent the references from showing up despite there being no <references /> tag. There is a workaround using CSS, but the references are generated anyway and may be found and extracted.

Solution may be template. For it I must see example of code.

The extension keeps on inserting the references tag even if it is not included as part of the code shown above. Solution was:

{{#if:{{CURRENTLOGGEDUSER}} |<references/> |<div display:"none"><references/></div> }}

Of course the references could still be caught, but it makes it harder. It could be implemented in the code of Cite this possibility, to hide references from unregistered users, or disabling the forced inclusion of the references tag if it isn't included in the code.

I don't know that this is a bug, a feature request, or me not knowing what I'm doing. Use case is this:

My wiki hosts a number of documents related to court proceedings. Most are standard formats, but one is unique. I'm using a cite note for that format to explain to users what they need to read the file (for example, see the FTR cite at this link court(dot) raindrop(dot)works/wiki/21CR61225#Media - you'll have to copy/paste because of the link spam warning)

Any case that I'm working on that has this file type will have the same cite. I know there's a way to cite the same material multiple times in the same page, but is there a way to do the same across multiple pages?

People on Wikipedia sometimes do this with templates that can be used in as many references as needed. Here is an example. When used in wikitext it looks like this:

<ref name="Iranica">{{Encyclopaedia Iranica}}</ref>

Thanks .. it looks like that'll work. I'm going to have to dig more into it to make sure I set it up right, but it does seem like a usable option!

Yep, I was able to get it to work!

And now that I'm learning more about how the ref tags work, seems I don't even have to name it (which since it's only likely going to be used once per page, might make sense)

In the wiki article, the named ref could be thus, with a unique name, say aPmm2 in camelCase <ref name= aPmm2 >AuthorName [ThisIsTheURL (dateHere) This is the Title] More information here.</ref>

And when you cite aPmm2 again, use Here is another sentence.<ref name= aPmm2 />

Additional information can be added using the rp template:Here is a third sentence.<ref name= aPmm2 />{{rp| page 2}}

The real use of aPmm2 occurred in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Security_and_Defence_Policy

You would have to transclude the definition of named ref aPmm2 to each of your target articles.

Normally, the citation on the bottom of the page is automatically numbered.

When the last "sentence" of the page uses a ":" infront the citation will loose its numbering.

I tried fixing it with

$(document).ready(function(){
    $('.mw-references-wrap').before('<h1>References</h1>');
});

So that there will be a heading over the last sentence of the page but it does not work.

Any ideas?

I'm afraid I can not reproduce this. On which wiki does this happen? Do you have an example page?

Does it stay numbered for you, if the last sentence starts with ":"? If so i will provide pictures to show how it is in my wiki

You can post a small wikitext example that triggers the error for you.

Any chance to style the font size of the cite on the bottom of the page?

I tried changing it with .mw-body { ..

That should generally be possible with normal CSS selectors. You probably want one that includes .references. However, it depends on what you want to achieve and which wiki this is about. By default the Cite extension doesn't touch the default font-size, but some communities changed it for their wiki.

oh yes that works!

I'm looking for a way to include the text of a reference in the text of the page. I'd like to have something like:

This is a text from [1].

These are some of the books referenced on this page:

• Some author, Some book [<- This is what I'd like to achieve, identical to what is shown in References]

References

[1] Some author, Some book

Is there a possibility to achieve that?

Not with this extension, sorry. You can link to the same reference twice, but it can't be displayed in two different places.

Does the output follows any citation standard? Is there a possibility to switch between citation standards?

I'm afraid this question isn't specific enough to give a comprehensive answer. Maybe you are looking for en:Wikipedia:Citing sources?

Well, on the side of Wikipedia you can modify how the references look in References paragraph via template. But can you modife it in the text? E.g. insted of having anchors lik [1], use somethig like (Peters, 2015)?

To some degree this is possible: en:Help:Footnotes#Footnotes: groups. The section en:Wikipedia:Citing sources#Parenthetical referencing describes some more possibilities similar to what you are looking for.

Not that it bothers me, but is there any technical reason for said restriction?

As far as I can tell from the code, the reason is that refs without a name are automatically numbered, starting from 1. We want to avoid confusion between such automatically numbered and manually named refs.

An additional argument might have been that the (classic) HTML and CSS standards don't allow names, ids and such to start with a number either. It's typically a good idea to follow well-established standards.

Sample from 06:32, 19 August 2022 (UTC) <ref name= a12345 >test</ref> </references> --Ancheta Wis (talk) 06:32, 19 August 2022 (UTC)