Extension:DiscussionTools/Comparison/dtp

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Various extensions and tools have emerged over the years to improve the support MediaWiki offers people to communicate with one another on-wiki: Structured Discussions (Flow), LiquidThreads , DiscussionTools and Convenient Discussions.

This page offers an overview of these various extensions and how the features they offer compare to one another.

Main characteristics

Status of each tool, and their integration to the wiki's key features.

LiquidThreads Structured Discussions DiscussionTools Convenient Discussions
Type of tool MediaWiki extension Gadget/Userscript based on DiscussionTools
Release status Unmaintained Maintained (Wikimedia Foundation) Maintained (Volunteers)
Activation Pending removal[1] Deployed on all wikis as the default discussion system.[2] User configurable (including opting-out). User opt-in and configurable
Visual editing N No Yes Yes Yes Yes N No
Backwards-compatibility with wikitext N No N No Yes Yes Yes Yes
Templates support Yes Yes Yes Yes Incomplete PartialTables, templates and parser tags aren't allowed in replies in visual mode Yes Yes
Full history integration with the rest of the wiki Yes Yes N No Yes Yes Yes Yes
Mobile web support N No Yes Yes Yes Yes N No
Mobile app support N No N No Yes Yes N No
Permalink to a given comment Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yesif the signature of the comment is not altered.[3] In progress In progress

Discussion features

Interaction with talk pages and other comments.

LiquidThreads Structured Discussions DiscussionTools Convenient Discussions
Dedicated workflow for starting a new topic Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
Topic and contents preload Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
Indication of new comments when you read a topic N No N No Yes Yes
Indication of edited comments when you read a topic Yes Yes Yes Yes N No Yes Yes
Each conversation has a permalink Yes Yes Yes YesEach topic is a different page. Yes YesBy linking to the title, or by using the first comment's permalink.[3] In progress In progress[3]
Move topics between pages Yes Yes N Noplanned but not implemented Yes Yesvia wikitext editing; title and signature mustn't be altered during the move.[3] Yes Yes
Include discussions on another page and reply to them there N No N Noplanned, including cross-wiki transclusion , but not implemented Yes Yesmaya Transklusi
Editing comments Yes Yes Yes Yes Incomplete Partialvia wikitext editing the whole page or section. See T242562 and T245225 for the editing of individual comments. Yes Yes
Thank a comment from within the talk page Incomplete Partialvia Page history Yes Yes Incomplete Partialvia Thanks in Page history.
In progress In progressWork on supporting "Thanking" from the DiscussionTools UI is being tracked.
Yes Yes
Sort topics by recent comment Yes Yes Yes Yes N No N No
Sort topics by start date Yes Yes Yes Yes N No N No
Summarize a discussion at the top of it Yes Yes Yes Yes Incomplete Partialby editing opening comment.
Mark a message as read or unread Yes Yes N No N No N No
Show/hide (collapse) subthreads Yes Yes N No N No Yes Yes

Notifikasi om interaktiviti

LiquidThreads Structured Discussions DiscussionTools Convenient Discussions
Highlight a set of unread comments N No Yes Yes Yes Yesonly when subscribed to a topic and using links from notifications Yes Yes
Subscribe to be notified about new comments to a topic Yes Yesvia Watchlist Yes Yesvia Echo Yes Yesvia Echo or itself
Be notified when a new topic is started on a talk page
Auto-subscription to a topic you created Yes Yesdefault
Highlight a quoted comment N Nocan link to comments but only as standalone pages Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
Notification of edited comments Incomplete Partialonly on your own comments Yes Yes N No N No

Maintenance and moderation

LiquidThreads Structured Discussions DiscussionTools Convenient Discussions
Direct access to user talkpage, contribs and more Incomplete Partialif linked in the signature Yes Yes Incomplete Partialif linked in the signature
Hide (moderate) a comment Incomplete Partialno undelete UI Yes Yes Incomplete Partialvia undo/rollback (requires searching for edit in edit history) or archival templates, not included and requires editing wikitext Yes Yes
Hide or delete a topic Yes Yes Incomplete Partialsame as DiscussionTools
Archiving discussions Incomplete Not needed Incomplete Not needed N Nosee T337293
  • Requires 3rd party bots for automatic archival
  • Requires wikitext editing or 3rd party gadgets for manual archival
N NoSame as DiscussionTools, though moving topics can be used for manual archival.
Report an inappropriate comment N No N No In progress In progress[4] N No

References

  1. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T332022
  2. A few wikis have Flow as the default discussion system.
  3. T339247Create entry points for the Incident Report dialog with DiscussionTools