Mattflaschen-WMF

Previous discussion was archived at User talk:Mattflaschen-WMF/Archive 1 on 10 July 2015.

Please fix?

Hi. My update here didn't go as planned, but when I try to undo it, the page just never stops loading. Elitre (WMF) (talk) 07:07, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Sorry I didn't see this earlier. This sounds like phab:T110758, which is fixed now. Mattflaschen-WMF (talk) 01:47, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

Flow prefill

Hi! I have read your comment at phab:T59989#anchor-1500040. When I click on the link for the Flow prefill ([1]), I can see the words "Preloaded title" appear for a split second, but then it disappears.

I have tried various things to make it work, like replacing %20 with _, as well as disabling JavaScript, to no avail. Does it work for you? Nirmos (talk) 00:22, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for the report. This is a regression in the JavaScript experience. Filed as phab:T112037. Mattflaschen-WMF (talk) 01:32, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

This is fixed now. The fix should be on this wiki in the next hour or so, and roll out to all wikis by Thursday. Roan Kattouw (WMF) (talk) 21:22, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

Cleanly marking Wikimedia-specific content on mediawiki.org

Hi Matt, @Nemo bis was asking earlier about your April revision to Manual:How_to_debug. I agree that the edit seems like it's in a peculiar spot. In the 2015-09-01 API doc office hour, @Krenair (WMF) asserted "Wikimedia gets away with an awful lot of out of scope stuff that should have been moved [off of mediawiki.org][1]")

I think it's generally possible to have Wikimedia-specific stuff here, but how should we go about ensuring both:

1. Wikimedia-specific stuff is in a discoverable location
2. We're not making our documentation overly complicated and cluttered for non-Wikimedia uses?

The above is the general dilemma which you don't need to be the one to solve, but some help in figuring out where that particular edit belongs would be appreciated. Thanks! RobLa-WMF (talk) 00:19, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

You are right that probably belongs elsewhere, I think on wikitech: .

I've moved it to wikitech:Debugging in production#Debugging_a_maintenance_script_on_mw1017. Mattflaschen-WMF (talk) 03:19, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

Test message delivery

This is a test of a message (test 2). Mattflaschen-WMF via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:24, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Please provide feedback on suggested improvements to the Code of Conduct

Thanks to everyone who’s helped work on the Code of Conduct so far.

People have brought up issues they feel were missed when working on "Unacceptable behavior" and "Report a problem". Consultants have also suggested changes in these same sections.

These are important sections, so please take a look at the proposed changes. I apologize that this feedback arrived later than planned, but I think this will create a better document.

If you prefer to give your opinion privately, feedback via e-mail is welcome at conduct-discussionwikimedia.org.

Thanks. Mattflaschen-WMF via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 04:18, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Please participate in discussion on updated "Marginalized and underrepresented groups" text

Thanks for participating in the earlier discussion on Talk:Code of Conduct/Draft#Marginalized and underrepresented groups. There was some support and some issues were raised. I've attempted to propose a better draft to address the issues.

Please participate at Talk:Code of Conduct/Draft#New proposed wording. Thanks. User:Mattflaschen-WMF via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:38, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

Please participate in discussion on updated "Marginalized and underrepresented groups" text

Thanks for participating in the earlier discussion on Talk:Code of Conduct/Draft#Marginalized and underrepresented groups. There was some support and some issues were raised. I've attempted to propose a better draft to address the issues.

Please participate at Talk:Code of Conduct/Draft#New proposed wording. Thanks. User:Mattflaschen-WMF via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:40, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

Please participate in discussion on updated "Enforcement issues" text

Thanks for participating in the earlier discussion on Talk:Code of Conduct/Draft#Enforcement issues. There was strong support for the first two points, so they have been closed. Most people either supported the third at least in principle, or were neutral. However, there are some suggested wording changes (partly by Smalyshev (WMF), and partly by me).

Please participate again at Talk:Code of Conduct/Draft#New proposed wording. Thanks. User:Mattflaschen-WMF via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:47, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

Please participate in discussion on updated "Enforcement issues" text

Sorry, the correct link for the discussion about wording re Talk:Code of Conduct/Draft#Enforcement issues is Talk:Code of Conduct/Draft#Circumvention text new wording. Thanks. I apologize for the double-message. User:Mattflaschen-WMF via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:51, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

Deletion of Flow topic/comment

Hello Mattflaschen, we've had some instances of vandalism/spam on Flow pages on gomwiki, such as this:

https://gom.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topic:T5crnav4dljy4wo2

I've deleted the topic, but the text in the subject, which can be still be seen, even by non-logged in users, is quite offensive. How can I make this topic title hidden (as an admin)? I'm looking for something like a revision delete for the Flow page history or a page delete for the topic. The Discoverer (talk) 14:32, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

@The Discoverer

You need to suppress it. It doesn't look like anyone in gomwiki has suppress (see https://gom.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%B6%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%B6:ListUsers&group=oversight and https://gom.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%B6%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%B6:ListUsers&group=suppress ).

You can ask a steward. If it's urgent, you can use !steward in #wikimedia-stewards on Freenode. If it's slightly less urgent, you can use Meta:Vandalism reports.

In the future, you may want to ask about getting a local oversighter for your wiki.

This is analogous to how deleting a page does not hide the page name (it's still in Special:Log/delete). Mattflaschen-WMF (talk) 23:04, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

The suppressor can actually do the action at https://gom.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%B6%E0%A4%AF:T5crnav4dljy4wo2&action=history (it should show 'suppress' in parentheses). Mattflaschen-WMF (talk) 23:08, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for your advice, Matt. I have requested for suppression. The Discoverer (talk) 10:18, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

...and that led to this: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137288 The Discoverer (talk) 12:37, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, if you suppress the topic directly, it works fine. But it turns out there is a problem if the topic is first deleted, then later suppressed. I'm working on it. Mattflaschen-WMF (talk) 22:08, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

Compatibility

Hello Matt

I have seen your edit, as well as the code, and it seems like the Grade C comment section in the code was wrong.

Instead of "Firefox 3+" it probably should be "Firefox <4", or perhaps "Firefox 3.*". Similarly for the others, "Opera 10+" ''would'' include Opera 10.5+…

What do you think? Platonides (talk) 00:03, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

It's intentional. My understanding is it means basically, "The no-JS experience is intended to work and provide essential user actions in Firefox 3+, etc.". It does not mean Firefox 3+ deliberately gets the no-JS experience. It might sometimes get no-JS (e.g. due to a transient network failure), but normally as you note it doesn't. In some cases e.g. IE >= 6 < 9 we do deliberately serve all Grade C browsers of that type no-JS (unless the Grade C is also Grade A), but not for Firefox.

@Krinkle and I discussed this leading up to that edit. This is my understanding from that discussion. Mattflaschen-WMF (talk) 00:39, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Ah, I see. The «no-javascript run-time» includes more than simply not loading javascript, so eg. Firefox 10 would usually be Grade A, but if it had javascript disabled, it would get Grade C support, and it should work, too.

Thanks Platonides (talk) 22:41, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Test

Male MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:05, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

BASEPAGENAME: Mattflaschen-WMF Mattflaschen-WMF (talk) 18:08, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

Test page names

FULLPAGENAME - User talk:Mattflaschen-WMF

PAGENAME - Mattflaschen-WMF

BASEPAGENAME - Mattflaschen-WMF

SUBPAGENAME - Mattflaschen-WMF

SUBJECTPAGENAME - User:Mattflaschen-WMF

ARTICLEPAGENAME - User:Mattflaschen-WMF

TALKPAGENAME - User talk:Mattflaschen-WMF

ROOTPAGENAME - Mattflaschen-WMF Mattflaschen-WMF (talk) 18:17, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

Please participate again in improving the "Conflict of interest" section

The "Conflict of interest" section was not approved earlier.

There has been further discussion on it, aiming to solve those issues. Please participate in the sub-sections of Talk:Code of Conduct/Draft#Finalize "Conflict of interest" section? and make sure your concerns are being addressed.

Thanks.

User:Mattflaschen-WMF 03:55, 28 September 2016 (UTC) MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 03:55, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

Weigh in on whether to finalize the new version of the "Conflict of interest" section

You participated earlier in discussion about the "Conflict of interest" section of the draft Code of Conduct for technical spaces. There was not consensus to approve an earlier version of this section. I'm contacting you to let you know the draft has been updated, and we are now discussing whether to finalize the new version.

Please participate here.

Thank you,

User:Mattflaschen-WMF via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 04:32, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

Are you serious??

https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Code_of_Conduct/Draft&diff=prev&oldid=2402196

Please apologize to everyone involved and never try to do something like that again. Thank you. ~ The Quixotic Potato (talk) 18:20, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

Oh and please delete flow, it is a stupid idea and a waste of money. The Quixotic Potato (talk) 18:46, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

Stop reverting start talking

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Seriously. It is annoying. We need to talk. The Quixotic Potato (talk) 00:33, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

Please read what I wrote on my talkpage and over at User talk:MSchottlender-WMF The Quixotic Potato (talk) 00:34, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

If you disagree with some of my improvements then you can discuss them on that talkpage. The Quixotic Potato (talk) 00:36, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

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Guided Tours

Hi Matthew,

I see that you did some work with the Growth team (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Growth), specifically: https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-GuidedTour/blob/master/extension.json#L4

Here's the thing: I need to reach some data on guided tours for a recent campaign that we've run in WMDE. However, I can't figure out where to look for the data that I need, so I thought it would be the best to reach someone from the Growth team and ask for advise.

Please advise.Regards,

Goran S. Milovanović, PhD

Data Analyst, Software Department

Wikimedia Deutschland GoranSM (talk) 07:06, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

@GoranSM Sure. Basically, you need to set shouldLog to true in the tour (if this is false or omitted, no data will be recorded; example with true is here), then you can get data from the relevant EventLogging schemas. See the list of schemas.

If you're not familiar with accessing EventLogging, you can start here.

The tables have names that are the schema, plus underscore, then the ID. E.g. GuidedTourGuiderImpression_8694395 . So basically:

1. ssh stat1006.eqiad.wmnet
2. mysql --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/conf.d/research-client.cnf -hanalytics-store.eqiad.wmnet log
3. SELECT * FROM GuidedTourGuiderImpression_8694395 LIMIT 1;

If one of the first 2 steps fails, you will need to request access on Phabricator. If you have issues, you can ask here, or in #wikimedia-collaboration (if more GuidedTour-focused) or #wikimedia-analytics (if more EventLogging-focused) on Freenode. Mattflaschen-WMF (talk) 00:43, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

@Mattflaschen-WMFThank you so much. I have access to production and routinely use MariaDB replicas - I work as contractor Data Analyst for WMDE. Your suggestion on how to track the guided tours data:

"... you need to set shouldLog to true in the tour (if this is false or omitted, no data will be recorded; example with true is here)..."

is exactly what I was looking for.

Again: thank you very much! GoranSM (talk) 00:55, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

gerrit:408073 apologize

I'm sorry, so very sorry, that I did an insulting to you in that gerrit patch page, my brain couldn't control my hand in that time. I also promise that in the future, even if such -2 happened again, I either don't pay attention to that, or if that affects my UI experience, I will try to persuade the corresponding developer team(s) on Phabricator or public discussion pages such as VisualEditor/Feedback. I kindly know that unlike Phabricator, anyone's comment on gerrit can't be removed, and may make one untrusted. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 10:13, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

Feature Addition in Extension:StructuredDiscussions a.k.a Flow

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I want to add a functionality in my wiki so that users can vote other user's replies in SructuredDiscussions .(just like it is in Extension:Comments)

Is it possible ?

please guide me ... Falcopragati (talk) 06:56, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

@Falcopragati See the answer that you already received on User talk:Ciencia Al Poder#Regarding integration of Extension:VoteNY and 'Flow'. AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 17:38, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

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StructuredDiscussions (Flow) with Redis

There is a note you wrote in 2015 about not using StructuredDiscussions together with Redis. Is that still relevant? It seems like this commit may have solved the issue.

Thanks. Ike Hecht 15:17, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Mattflaschen no longer works for the Wikimedia Foundation, so you're unlikely to get a response here. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 14:50, 26 May 2020 (UTC)