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Next Growth Newsletter is ready for translation

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You volunteered to translate Growth newsletters. Thank you!

The next newsletter is ready for translation. I plan to send it next Monday, afternoon UTC.

Let me know if you have questions, and thank you again for your help.

--MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 10:51, 28 February 2025 (UTC)

Empty categories

As I wrote earlier, refrain from creating empty categories by inserting translations. Shirayuki (talk) 02:54, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

Category:ProtectionForm::buildForm extensions/cs - Please cancel the Czech translation, the page is empty. I only found out after translating. I'm sorry, but it was in the translation offer 'Translate content'. Please, how can I get information before starting the translation whether the Categorie: page has pages translated into Czech? Thanks You ENeRZet (talk) 05:33, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Translation unit markers

Never remove translation unit markers!-- Shirayuki (talk) 10:22, 16 April 2025 (UTC)

ok ENeRZet (talk) 14:59, 16 April 2025 (UTC)

I will repeat this many times, but never remove translation unit markers like this. Repeatedly making erroneous edits that have to be corrected by the translation administrators can only be regarded as vandalism. Shirayuki (talk) 21:26, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

I would assume that edit was some sort of edit conflict, not deliberately removing translation unit markers as you seem to be implying. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pppery (talk • contribs)

Vandalism

Stop vandalising pages for removed features like Manual:checkLanguage.inc. Shirayuki (talk) 11:32, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

This is just an example of pages that should not be in the list of pages to be translated on the 'Translate content' list, like many Categories. If I stop translating them, there will certainly be another active fool who will pounce on them over time. I ask you to start a discussion on how to avoid them and especially how to get them, perhaps after a discussion, from the pages where they are proposed for translation. I will be happy to help with finding them and suggesting their removal from the pages where a novice can start translating them due to their simplicity. I think that by subsequently warning him that he is translating nonsense, we will quickly discourage him from further translations. Thanks for the warning. ENeRZet (talk) 11:44, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

Please do not deflect the issue or shift the blame onto others. Repeatedly making erroneous edits that have to be corrected by the translation administrators can only be regarded as vandalism.-- Shirayuki (talk) 21:52, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

Sorry, no. Vandalism is an edit intended by its author to harm the site. EneRZet is clearly trying to help, even if you disagree that their edits are helpful. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 22:22, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

Honestly, neither of you is behaving especially well here. Shirayuki, these edits aren't vandalism, even if you disagree with them. I think your argument is that pages describing defunct functionality shouldn't have changes made to them which require invalidating translations, and argument which I happen to agree. Even if you were wrong, though, that still wouldn't be vandalism.

ENeRZet is actually right that said pages should be "discouraged" in the translation admin lingo, as it generally isn't useful to translate them into more languages - I've done that in this instance, and them pointing that out is in no way trying to shift blame or deflect from the issue. Shirayuki, you shouldn't use the admin protection tool on pages in which you personally are involved in an edit war, as you've done several times.

ENeRZet, please do a better job at trying to listed to complaints people are making - the situation in which you have to be told to do something multiple times as you apparently didn't get the memo the first time is unideal. And your comment above is not well-argued - "but someone else might do it to" is not really the best defense of your actions. Both of you are among the most active editors on the site - can you please stop bickering and get back to doing useful work? * Pppery * _{it has begun} 22:34, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

Thank you all for the discussion. I am aware that the fault lies with me. I was just trying to point out that this can also be a problem for discouraged newcomers. Most of these pages that are no longer editable are very short. This tempts novice translators to make the first attempt. That is why I made a suggestion.

Regarding cooperation with Shirayuki - we have been cooperating for a long time. I like his way: If he deletes the wrong edit to the translation and I have to try to find the right one. Sometimes it takes several attempts. For me, it is the best way to remember something. Sometimes I would prefer if he described to me what and how to do it.

Regarding the number of warnings, I think that in the volume that we have already made, the percentage is decreasing and probably does not exceed the normal average. I am still trying to be better. Thank you for your help. Everyone ;) ENeRZet (talk) 05:15, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

Kindly be reminded Trust & Safety issues are sensitive

Hello, your contribution is meant with good intentions, however, please slow down. For Trust_and_Safety_Product/Temporary_Accounts/Updates, you tried to <tvar> sample IP address (revision 7487027 as of 2025-03-20T07:17:44 UTC), which I reverted.

• Have you checked at least who uses that sample IP actually, before you tried to make it to a [$+number]?
• Why don't you cast a question at the discussion page firstly, if you doubt exposing IP addresses in such page as Temporary Accounts is wrong. That is very good as far as I think and you will convey actual user's thoughts to those teams.
• Will you use the option to inquire to the writers in cases like this? Or raise flag at the Translators' Portal is also a brave act.

I wish you realize that adding tvar tags to that sample IP is disturbing readers: we will not understand how the masking works, as you see, the sentences are comparing several patterns of masking/giving temp account names as suggestion.

It is more so since Temporary Accounts has been turned on by the team, which they said they would do at the time you were editing that page. We translators are not wizards, but we need to foresee plans are to be carried out, and make our input fit to what happens as planned IMHO.

Kindly consider we can mutually make your hunch "something is wrong" a learning chance, if you take your time and go to Portal or to the team/person writing the translation original. Questions are ladders to shift our knowledge and sharing it, I think. Cheers, Omotecho (talk) 21:54, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

Thank you ENeRZet (talk) 09:58, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

Update translation pages

If you continue making similar edits across multiple pages like this, please be responsible and update the translation pages for all languages, e.g.:

• https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Translations&message=Translations%3AManual%3AMWTerm.php%2F2%2Fja
• https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Translations&message=Translations%3AManual%3AObjectFileCache.php%2F2%2Fja
• https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Translations&message=Translations%3AManual%3AOrphanStats.php%2F2%2Fja

Shirayuki (talk) 13:52, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

Do I really have to check back to see how my proposed changes worked in other languages? I want to be serious, but this doesn't seem like standard to me. Please explain to me why I should do this. ENeRZet (talk) 07:32, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

Your edits are causing existing translations to be invalidated, which increases the workload for other translators who need to update them. Please make an effort to reduce this unnecessary burden by cooperating in updating the translations. If you're not willing to do so, please refrain from making such edits.

For example, you marked the translation unit as no longer outdated with no changes, which is an incorrect way to update the translation.-- Shirayuki (talk) 15:02, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for the explanation. I'll be careful. ENeRZet (talk) 04:52, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

Omit the translate tag when possible

Your markup was redundant. Please omit any consecutive ‎<translate>...‎</translate> tags that can be omitted. Shirayuki (talk) 11:38, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

okok ENeRZet (talk) 07:54, 10 May 2025 (UTC)