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Growth team projects on Hungarian Wikipedia

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Hello Bencemac!

While Hungarian Wikipedia is part of the wikis Growth team is targeting, your community feedback is particularly valued!

Can you help us? If so, we are looking for someone to share the considered ideas with the Hungarian community (by translating the key ideas for instance) and collecting feedback. Would that interest you?


Bencemac (talkcontribs)

@Trizek (WMF) Sorry for the late answer. I wrote a post and asked my community to share their ideas too.

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Hello Bencemac

Thank you for your help. Any updates?

Bencemac (talkcontribs)

@Trizek (WMF) Only those comments which are about the project.

  • One user wrote about her/his bad experiences (en:Wikipedia:Civility could be a solution) as an experienced editor. Furthermore she/he mentioned that "advices" (e.g. warnings about missing sources) scare the new users at their first days.
  • The next editor wrote that new users should learn our rules step by step, help desks/pages are open for their questions (they have not had any unsolvable questions till now, which is true).

@Texaner thinks that this project is a nice "white elephant". Your answer would be appreciated if you have time for that.

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Thank you for that feedback. I'm gathering it with others. :)

I also note that, beyond Texaner's white elephant opinion, there is his opinion (if I have understood it correctly): not just keep new people busy with tasks, but make them real community members. Am I correct?

In any case, a project like that can't be achieved without community help. I've seen that on my wiki (French Wikipedia), where initiatives about newbies have been successful when the majority of the active community has started to get involved.

Bencemac (talkcontribs)

Texaner was saying that keeping old editors and cooperating with them would be more important then forcing them to leave. Reszelésük means that we slowly file them like a cheese (reduce their number).

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

I see. The goal is not to show the edit to old editors but to keep it open (with guidances) to new ones.

Looking for someone to join a small research project

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

One of the WMF design researchers is looking for editors to review some plans for Special:RecentChanges. They do this in a video conference call, with screensharing, so it doesn't have to be in a particular physical location, but the editors need to speak English and have a computer/internet connection that can support a video call (like Google Hangouts or Skype video). I hate having everyone come from the English Wikipedia for studies like this. Are you interested, or do you know someone from huwiki that might be interested?

Bencemac (talkcontribs)


I'll write a topic about it on the huWiki's technical village pump tomorrow. Before I do it, could you give me a little bit more information? Will it be a common video conference (with a lot of people) or will be only 2/3 people? What kind of plans will they talk about? Does screensharing mean the coordinators will share their screen and show us the gadget? Sorry about it but I’m a little bit confused and I don’t know that I would be useful for them. Despite it I'm looking forward to hearing about you.

Best regards!

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Let me ping @Trizek (WMF), who should have the details. I really appreciate your help.

Normally, it's just one editor and one researcher in a video call. Each editor gets a private interview. (The researchers usually record the interviews, so that they can watch them later and make sure that they wrote down your comments accurately, but they don't publish the videos anywhere without explicit, specific consent.)

The researchers usually have a link so that you can play with a new interface yourself, and tell them what you think about it. You share your screen with the researchers, so that you can show them what you are doing and what you want to do.

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Hi Bencemac and thank you very much for your interest.

Like Sherry says, it is a private interview, only with the researcher. The video is recorded and will not be shared unless if you explicitly agree to.

You will have to share your screen when you try the prototype (using Google Hangouts). The researcher will ask you do some particular tasks or actions, and will see how to do them. The goal is to identify blockers or points to solve in the proposed design, and also see what you like or don't like, or what you expect from this prototype.

The research is about Recent Changes, Watchlist and/or Special:Contributions pages. The interview would happen in the coming weeks.

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