Amire80

Amire80

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A little help

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Hi Amire80, I'm this guy. You told me you can give me a hand to adapt this script in order to run alongside ContentTranslation. Do you know where is the problem? Cheers, Oscar . (talk) 17:00, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

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Mark for translation

Can you mark Template:Spec Navigation for translation? I try to piece together a project. ;) Jeblad (talk) 22:05, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

Done. Amir E. Aharoni {{🌎🌍🌏}} 06:21, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

Marking Lua reference manual for translation

Could you please mark Extension:Scribunto/Lua reference manual for translation? Psychoslave (talk) 12:59, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Done, although that's a very long page, and it may require this again. If you plan to work on it more, I suggest that you ask for translation admin permissions at Project:Requests#Requests for permissions Amir E. Aharoni {{🌎🌍🌏}} 00:18, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

My saved ongoing translation does not load

I am using W7 and Chrome 49.0.2623.75 m. In Explorer 9 says Error: falló la conexión con el servidor..

I am not clicking +Añadir traducción to add new paragraphs bc I am afraid of losing my previous job.

I had a lenghty article on the writing Triplecaña (talk) 07:52, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Internet Explorer 9 is officially not supported. Can you please try doing this with another browser? Amir E. Aharoni {{🌎🌍🌏}} 11:26, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

A few questions for you

Hi there! Because you are a proud member of the community taskforce for the visual editor, I'm sending you this short questionnaire so that we can learn how to improve existing resources and about different ways to build and share community knowledge. Thanks for participating! I'll come back here to collect your answers on September 9th. I'll collate answers on the taskforce talk page. Talk to you soon!

PS: If for any reason you'd like to provide your answers privately, just send me an email instead.

1. Was the existing documentation about how to adapt the visual editor to your context useful to you?
   • Do you have ideas about how to improve or expand it? (Note it has been changed recently, here's what it looked like before.)
   • What is your preferred format to learn about something or about how to get things done? Feel free to list tools or other resources, even if they aren't being used currently on our sites.
2. What is the one thing related to adapting the visual editor which is not explained well anywhere and you're still struggling to learn more about?
3. Did you create additional documentation/resources to help yourself and others? Like user guides, how-to/instruction pages, etc.? If so, please provide links.
4. Did somebody else from WMF or your community assist you with the visual editor community work you did so far? Please list names and the ways they provided support (like, Alice sent me an email to explain how to do X). Please, add community members' names to the taskforce list if they are not there yet. Elitre (WMF) (talk) 17:53, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

1. That page is pretty complete. I'll use the opportunity to mention my usual delenda est thing, however, even though it's non-trivial and requires a lot of patience and dedication: Investigating the appearance of <nowiki> tags, frequently auto-inserted by VE and Parsoid (and by extension Content Translation). I did it in the Hebrew Wikipedia, documented it in English, and reported a bunch of bugs as a result (some fixed, some declined ;) ). Along the way, all the appearances of <nowiki> can be removed from the article space. I can think of no good reason for them to ever appear there, at least in the languages I know, although they are often needed in other spaces like Project: and Help:. They can easily be found by running a search for "insource:nowiki". There were thousands of them in Hebrew, and I removed them all. In other languages I can see thousands of them. I'd love to help dedicated people who know the relevant language get rid of them. The common reasons for their appearance may be different in other languages. It's useful not just for wiki syntax cleanliness, but also for finding useful VE and Parsoid bugs.
2. Being an experienced Wikipedia, I am not struggling with this myself, but every time I explain about VE to other people, the need to know names of templates when inserting them is the most puzzling part for the newbies. This is filed as https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T55590 .
3. Other than nowiki thing, which I created, and which I update continuously, there's a simple thing I do: Every time I happen to notice diffs in which somebody is struggling to do something using VE, I go to the help page about it in my home wiki and make sure that it explains how to do it in VE. Many of the local help pages were written many years ago before VE and only reflect wiki syntax (and sometimes they are outdated even for wiki syntax). I did this for the Hebrew counterparts of Wikipedia:Categorization and Help:Footnotes and maybe other pages I forgot ;)
4. Other than WMF VE developers, designers, managers and liaisons (like you!), the community person with whom I worked on this the most is probably Eran (@ערן), who knows much more than I do about deep customization and gadgets than I do. Amir E. Aharoni {{🌎🌍🌏}} 08:57, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

Çeviri sayfasının formatının bozulması

Function model sayfasını çevirirken sayfanın formatı bozuldu. Çeviri yapılacak paragraflar uygun yerde gelmiyor. Lütfen yardım eder misiniz. Gerekirse çeviriyi tamamen silebilirsiniz. Ben tekrar baştan başlayabilirim. Teşekkürler. Ali Alçı (talk) 14:26, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

Revision Slider - write up on RTL issues

Hi! I am writing to let you know that we've just published notes on developing a RTL-accessible feature in MediaWiki environment based on our experiences while developing Revision Slider. We've mentioned you in the acknowledgements section of text but let us thank you once again for all your help! We really appreciate it. Leszek Manicki (WMDE) (talk) 13:43, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

Oh, you're very kind :)

Thank you! Amir E. Aharoni {{🌎🌍🌏}} 14:48, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

the biggest glitch on Content translation/Templates

the biggest glitch i noticed is "will automatically the parameter value"

please take a look and clarify. Shaxoo (talk) 19:50, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, fixed. Amir E. Aharoni {{🌎🌍🌏}} 17:36, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

the meaning of "WMF wikis" is probably not obvious to everyone. i'd expand to "wikis of the Wikimedia Foundation" Shaxoo (talk) 17:09, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

It took me a minute to figure out that this comment and the next one, are about the page Help:TemplateData, which I do not maintain. I suggest posting them to Help talk:TemplateData. Amir E. Aharoni {{🌎🌍🌏}} 17:37, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

woops... :-) Shaxoo (talk) 17:56, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

"You will probably want to use subst: to make the values stick:"

also assumes intimate previous knowledge about mediawiki. i'd additionally drop the word "prefix" in there. like so:

"You will probably want to use the prefix subst: with the values to make them stick:" Shaxoo (talk) 17:14, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

what happened to Content Translation Tool

Hey, what happened to the Content Translation Tool? It was there yesterday on my Contributions menu, but it has now disappeared. And the reference to it in BETA tools is not there either. It's not there in fr.wikipedia too. Has the tool been withdrawn or has my account, endo999, been banned. I haven't translated in 2 months. What's the problem? Endo999 (talk) 22:49, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

Technical reasons, server failure. The developers are investigating it. It will be back as soon as possible. Thank you very much for the interest. Amir E. Aharoni {{🌎🌍🌏}} 07:30, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

.... Uf .... scarry! Don't do it at home;) I never could even think of losing my ongoing work on Wikipedia. Well, (I hope) I did not. Vitosmo (talk) 13:15, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

right-to-left script edits

About Parsoid/Language conversion/Preprocessor fixups/20170501. I saw you edited the hebrew pages. Could you try to handle arabic script too this way (arwiki)? I can handle the russian and japanese script wikis, but right-to-left scripts (pages even) are too tricky for me. I cannot edit those 'in the blind'. There may be more rtl scripts listed. DePiep (talk) 09:03, 13 May 2017 (UTC)

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Thanks for asking!

I'll try fixing some of the simpler cases, because the directionality works the same way in Hebrew and in Arabic, but I probably don't know the Arabic language nearly well enough to fix them all, so I'll probably have to ask for somebody's help at some point. Amir E. Aharoni {{🌎🌍🌏}} 09:52, 13 May 2017 (UTC)

OK, so I managed to do more than I thought I'd be able to do, and completed most of "other".

For Chemistry, I created {{Hyphen}}, as in English and Hebrew. Would you be able to do the rest?

The non-articles are mostly Lua modules. Amir E. Aharoni {{🌎🌍🌏}} 14:28, 13 May 2017 (UTC)

" Would you be able to do the rest?" - eh, not that fast.

I asked you because I can handle left-to-right scripts 'into the blind'. Because cyrillic also has the the l-to-r page, I can find & click the tabs and menus (without understanding) in russia ruwiki.

However, in R-to-L hebrew and arabic pages, I cannot even locate the menu words. I cannot create my useful /sandbox page (no need to teach me ;-) ). That's why I asked you: maybe you can edit 'blindly' the r-to-l wikis. DePiep (talk) 21:59, 13 May 2017 (UTC)

Logging in problem

Dear Amire

It has been a long since we saw you in South Africa. I hope you are keeping well all of you at home.

I have never struggled the way I do right now with logging in when I want to work on Wikipedia. Do I have to create a new account?

This is the third work I have been struggling with the same problem. Please help me if you can. My username is nomden. I have two e-mail addresses,1) nomden@unisa.ac.za, 2) unisanomden@gmail.com.

Please help me, if you can.

Regards

Nozibele nomdebevana 163.200.101.59 (talk) 11:52, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Would You report Vandalism?

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https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Topic:Ufz32lkuki7cgsut&action=history Hans Haase (有问题吗) 09:53, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

Hans, get off my case, please. You are doing everything you can to thwart me. JUST LEAVE ME ALONE, UNDERSTOOD? Til Eulenspiegel (talk) 10:02, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

Just noticed this myself, but I'll let this go, despite blanking legitimate comments that are on-topic to the discussion/scope. Please don't do this again. Tropicalkitty (talk) 18:07, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

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Getting a standard set of message tags for the wikisources' sidebar

Over at User:AKlapper (WMF)#Guidance for for introducing a standard set of mediawiki: ns pages for sister wikis, I was asking naive questions on the process for looking to systematically getting MW: ns messages where the Wikisources have a level of common urls in the Sidebar. One to get some defaults in place just to make it easier, and then to get the translations in place for message names. AK indicates that it sits as a language-type matter, so I thought of you, especially as coding is something that I wish to avoid.

Do you see that this could sit under the coordination of the Language team if the Wikisources are able to agree to a common set of terms/urls? Thanks. — billinghurst sDrewth 09:49, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

I don't see how this is "a language-type matter". In my understanding anyone interested in this could coordinate and reach out to communities, and anyone interested in this could volunteer to follow Gerrit instructions and propose a patch. AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 12:10, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

I see it as a language-type matter for the Wikisources as this is something that can already be done now for the wikisources through Sidebar and as said numbers already have this specific set of links in the sidebar. I am hoping that what we can offer the WS community is a range of default urls they can easily implemented in their sidebars, AND when they go to another WS they will be able to see those links in their language. I am not looking to offer new functionality, just repeating url components and corresponding labels. — billinghurst sDrewth 10:26, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Heh, a very curious question.

It's a huge topic, but very briefly:

Andre, while it's not exactly a language issue, in practice, the implementation of the sidebar does involve system messages, so it is a good idea to involve the Language team in finding a good way to make them more robust and portable.

A quick and simple solution is probably something like this:

• Discuss with people from other Wikisource editions what do they want in the sidebar.
• Once you arrive at an agreement for at least a few of them, write the common sidebar code. By "code" I mean something like s:en:MediaWiki:Sidebar, so it's something with which you are already familiar.
• Once it's done, it can probably be added as a message in Extension:WikimediaMessages. If you don't want to go deeply into Gerrit, I can do it for you.
• Once it's merged, it will be possible to translate it on translatewiki.net, and after it's translated, it will be auto-deployed to all the languages. Doing this is more robust than managing a local MediaWiki:Sidebar in each wiki site.
• So far, so good, but I'm less sure about the next part: Each language will have to get rid of its local MediaWiki:Sidebar (this is easy—just delete the page) and to enable the sidebar code from WikimediaMessages. I'm not quite sure how to do this. Maybe User:Nikerabbit will have an idea. And maybe he'll suggest scrapping this whole plan, and doing something else ;)

In the longer term, I envision proper product management work around the sidebar: Analyzing its usability, design, clicks frequency, customization options, and so on. But the naïve little plan above can be a first step. Amir E. Aharoni {{🌎🌍🌏}} 17:54, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

Claude Vaussin

Hi, I am also having the edit-abuse problem with my English translation of "Claude Vaussin". Can you help? --~ Melchior2006 (talk) 09:21, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

The warning reads: "Hit AbuseFilter: Content Translation Edits" Melchior2006 (talk) 09:29, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

The translation is from the German wiki into English. Melchior2006 (talk) 09:30, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

"put into comments" rather than "dont translate"

Hi, on https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Translate&showMessage=Help%3AExtension%3AContentTranslation%2F71&group=page-Help%3AExtension%3AContentTranslation&language=fr you say : "It's OK to skip some parts of the source article especially if they are not very interesting for the people who will read it in the target language. For example:..." but it is preferable everyone sees the same thing. Depending if a paragraph is 'interesting' depends on the point of view of each one. I would suggest rather to put into comments these kinds of paragraphs in the original EN page so that they appear nowhere. Since when people complete existing articles, they often do not bother with the "translate" tags, I add them manually and in this case I cannot make the difference.

Christian Wia (talk) 17:59, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

Translation tweak request

Hallo :) Thank you for translating the Prototype pages already! There is one small change (I added a link) and one new very short string, in Reading/Web/Desktop_Improvements/Prototype_testing/he. That will be going out next Monday, if you have a moment before then. Cheers! Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 20:02, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

Done.

There's a lot of text at the bottom under the title "Arash.pt". It probably shouldn't be there. Amir E. Aharoni {{🌎🌍🌏}} 13:05, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

That's the first response!

Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 18:14, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

Oh, got it. It was a bit confusing.

Some other notes, the most important are at the top:

1. Most important: When you click the languages button, the right-hand edge of the panel is aligned with the right edge of the button in both English and Hebrew. In Hebrew the left edge of the panel is supposed to be aligned with the left edge of the panel. Currently, the panel cannot really be seen. I don't recommend sending this for testing to users in RTL wikis before fixing.
2. The UI of the ULS panel in Hebrew is written in English.
3. In Hebrew, the languages in the list in the panel have bullets. In the English there are no bullets. The bullets shouldn't be there in any language.
4. The notifications bell icon at https://people.wikimedia.org/~jdrewniak/dip/#/he/wiki/%D7%94%D7%99%D7%A8%D7%97 looks broken. It looks OK in English.
5. The languages button there looks a bit too tight. The 文Α icon and the down arrow are too close to the text. It's probably an easy-to-fix RTL CSS issue. Amir E. Aharoni {{🌎🌍🌏}} 12:08, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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The Original Barnstar

Wow--you did an amazing job on Global templates, especially devising the proposed specification! It is very well thought out, well-structured, thorough, sufficiently detailed, yet still easy to read. It is hard to believe that English is not one of your native languages. When I need to refer someone to a great piece of technical writing, the proposed spec will be my new go-to paragon. If there were a Pulitzer Prize for technical writing, I would absolutely nominate you for it! Libcub (talk) 06:03, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

O wow, thanks a lot :)

Despite your praise, I do welcome you to challenge it in any way possible and find things that might be wrong. And please tell your friends in the English Wikipedia and in all other wikis about this.

(About English: I used two weird tricks to make it better. The first was to translate the whole long thing into Hebrew, which is also not my first native language, but it is the language I speak to my family and friends most often, and I have a B.A. degree in it. As I was translating, I also changed the English text along the way: if a technical text is hard to translate, it may also be hard to read to in the original language. The other trick was to use LanguageTool.) Amir E. Aharoni {{🌎🌍🌏}} 13:10, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

Please block

41.144.88.135 (talk · contribs)

And delete all their contributions. It's only spam. –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 19:40, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

@Nikerabbit pinging you as well. –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 19:43, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

@MJL: done. Nuked all posts and topics. The IP is globally blocked by Bsadowski1 for one month. So I don't think we need to block that IP locally. Ainz Ooal Gown (talk) 20:39, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

@Masumrezarock100 Thank you so much!! :D –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 20:46, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

About the specifications of MediaWiki

07:10, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello Amire80 !!!

Recently I posted my opinion on Talk:Communication#About the specifications of MediaWiki about how to decide the specifications of MediaWiki.

So, please write your opinion.

Thank you !!!

--HaussmannSaintLazare (talk) 07:10, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

@HaussmannSaintLazare Please stop spamming the user pages of random people? Thanks. AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 11:06, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Who is the writer of the proposal in phab:T215403

01:37, 15 May 2020 (UTC) Hello Amire80 !!! I read phab:T215403, and I feld that the proposal is insufficient. So I wanted to know who is the writer of the proposal in phab:T215403. But I could not know it because I am not good at Phablicator. So please let me know who is the writer. Thank you !!! --HaussmannSaintLazare (talk) 01:37, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

The original writer of the task appears in the "Authored By". Amir E. Aharoni {{🌎🌍🌏}} 06:43, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

I can find it. Thnak you !!!

18:41, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

HaussmannSaintLazare (talk) 18:41, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Please fix my mistake in Wikimedia Phabricator

Hello Amire80 !!!

I found next text in phab:T212083.

HaussmannSaintLazare moved this task from CX2 to Voice typing in content translation on the ContentTranslation board.Sat, May 16, 3:33 PM

But I don't remember doing such an operation.

Perhaps I did something wrong.

I don't know how to fix it, so please fix it. Or, if you can tell me how to cancel it, I will delete it myself.

Thank you !!! HaussmannSaintLazare (talk) 19:08, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Fixed. Amir E. Aharoni {{🌎🌍🌏}} 19:57, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello Amire80 !!!!

Thank you very much !!!

HaussmannSaintLazare (talk) 16:15, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Global template

Can I make suggestion for the global template/s proposal and so support it?. BoldLuis (talk) 21:29, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Of course. Amir E. Aharoni {{🌎🌍🌏}} 21:36, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

<figure-inline></figure-inline>	The Barnstar of Diligence
	Adding links, so text is more easy for newbies. BoldLuis (talk) 00:53, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Please join the discussion on my proposal

Hello Amire80 !!!

I have made a proposal related to the phab:T215403 you are currently participating in. So please join the discussion on my proposal.

Thank you !!!

10:58, 19 May 2020 HaussmannSaintLazare (talk) 10:58, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello Amire80 !!!

Please write your impressions about my proposal that I introduced the other day.

Thank you. HaussmannSaintLazare (talk) 11:31, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

I don't have anything to add. Amir E. Aharoni {{🌎🌍🌏}} 12:38, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

আপনার জন্য একটি পদক!

<figure-inline></figure-inline>	রোজেত্তা পদক
	For working in Content Translation Tool.

RIT RAJARSHI (talk) 19:38, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

আপনার জন্য একটি পদক!

<figure-inline></figure-inline>	রোজেত্তা পদক
	For working in Content Translation Tool.

RIT RAJARSHI (talk) 19:38, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

A request for translation

Hello! Would it be possible for you to translate some messages about the Community Wishlist Survey, starting from the invitation message? The Survey is starting in 2 days (on Monday).

If you know other English-Hebrew translators, could you consider sharing this request with them, unless you feel committed to take care of all the remaining translations? Thanks! SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 14:43, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Translatable templates crosswikis

Hello, thank you for your interesting remark on crosswiki templates. I have never understood why langwikis (especially enwiki) don't like it international and prefer staying insidewiki only. Just see the mess about covid data : each wikis has its table, its data, so you would have to edit xxx to show same data among wikis... I edited this template https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:A%C3%A9roport-Statistiques Someone didn't like my using template LangSwitch on enwiki. So perhaps https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:Translatable_template would be a better solution to store translation of templates but is it accepted on enwiki and how to implement its use ? Bouzinac (talk) 10:10, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

I do agree that COVID data sharing across languages works extremely badly, and that it's indeed one of the best examples of the need for better technology for sharing templates, tools, and data across wikis. Unfortunately, I don't expect your suggestion to be easily accepted by the community with the current state of technology, and that's why I am promoting the idea of creating a Global templates repository. This will take the sharing of tools and data across wikis to the next level, allowing things that the communities want to be local to remain local, and to easily share the things that people want to share. It won't happen tomorrow, and it will take a long time to get this implemented, but the recognition that this is necessary is growing :)

Your comments would be very welcome on Global templates/Discuss, as well as on the talk pages of Global templates/Proposed specification, short version and Global templates/Proposed specification. Amir E. Aharoni {{🌎🌍🌏}} 11:05, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

In fact, the very people opposing my use of LangSwitch is the same opposing your idea... Bouzinac (talk) 11:36, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello there, I think I've succeeded in developing the template about airport patronages cross wikis, thanks to the I18n templates.

However, I really wonder how to translate documentation, such this way Wikidata ? Perhaps you'd have a way to enabling translation tool somewhere ? Bouzinac (talk) 12:50, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

I cannot give you a very good solution right now, but maybe the Translatable modules project, which is in development now, will be useful in a few months.

Where is the template itself? Amir E. Aharoni {{🌎🌍🌏}} 12:54, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

I was trying to help translate into French that one https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:WE-Framework

One of the difficulties of the airport patronage documentation is that for instance nederlands template documentation has to be inside the very template (so that if you update copy-paste the original code, the nl documentation would disappear again). eg there nl:Sjabloon:Luchthaven-Statistieken Bouzinac (talk) 12:58, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, that's the difficulty. There's currently no unified framework to do this. It has to be developed. Amir E. Aharoni {{🌎🌍🌏}} 13:32, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Hmmm..... Just have a look at that discussion ... https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Helpdesk#Dokumentatie_sjabloon Bouzinac (talk) 13:36, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Oh, that's an interesting link! Give me some time to go through it properly. Amir E. Aharoni {{🌎🌍🌏}} 14:00, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Interesting

An user answered me:

SSastry (WMF) (talkcontribs) The current wikitext model requires the processed template output (= wikitext) to be merged into the top-level page before the output of the full page is converted to HTML. This is the preprocessing model where a transclusion ({{some-tpl|..args..}}) is evaluated. This preprocessing will fetch other templates where necessary, and so on recursively. I should go look at the code to be sure, but in the current model, every one of these template fetches will be resolved to a target. And, so if template target resolution goes through a global template repository, then it is likely every recursively referenced template will be impacted by that. An alternative model of course is to change the code so that during template preprocessing, all template references resolve on the local wiki where the top-level template target resolves to.

<tangent>Parsoid is eventually trying to get to a model where a transclusion is processed independent of everything on the page and so the output of the transclusion is always HTML / DOM (or if we are able to arrive at typed templates, then it will be some typed value, with the default being HTML/DOM always). In addition, we are trying to get to a place where Parsoid doesn't care what component generated it as long as the types match up. So, both the above preprocessing systems would be compatible with Parsoid. And, at some level, extension are no different than templates in that regard. Everything produces a typed value. So, you can build whatever transclusion system you want as long as you adhere to the type contract. Getting to this point is a bit slow since we are still trying to get to Parsoid being the only wikitext engine.

For example, Scribunto could be considered to be a different templating model from the native wikitext templating model. They look the same on the surface because editors have adopted a mechanism where the module #invoke calls are hidden behind a typical wikitext transclusion.

So, from the ideal Parsoid POV, the qn. of global templates vs local templates or some-other-form-of-templates is an implementation decision of the implementor and they can all coexist as long as they can be appropriately namespaced / disambiguated. But, of course from a product POV, wikis might choose to pick a single mechanism.</tangent>

Hope that helps. BoldLuis (talk) 18:54, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

See Templates in Wikipedia and Wikidata to globalize

w:Template:Infobox_book/wikidata, wikidata:Wikidata-driven Wikimedia template, wikidata:User talk:ElanHR/Proposals/Schema for describing templates and their fields and Wikidata:Sister projects BoldLuis (talk) 11:04, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

As you say there, the code has to be copied from one wiki to another. To resolve this, a common templates repository is needed. Amir E. Aharoni {{🌎🌍🌏}} 11:18, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

The common repository is Wikidata. It must be taken as a task in Wikidata. BoldLuis (talk) 11:40, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

No, it isn't. It may be a repository for metadata about parameters, but not for the code of the template itself. It's not possible to transclude a template stored in Wikidata into the Spanish Wikipedia or into any other wiki. Amir E. Aharoni {{🌎🌍🌏}} 11:48, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

So we need a CodeSister site to store the templates itself and take the metadata about parameters for TemplateData in Wikidata. It would be donde the first step: store medata parameters for TemplateData in Wikidata. BoldLuis (talk) 17:48, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

שלום לך

אני מקוה שאני פונה לאיש הנכון.

לפי מה שהבנתי הינך עוסק הרבה בתרגום ההודעות כאן.

אשמח לדעת האם קיים עותק מתורגם של הקובץ הזה לעברית לפי הבדיקה שלי בויקיפדיה העברית זה מחזיר את השפות בתרגום לעברית. אשמח לעזרתך. תודה וערב טוב. בקש (talk) 18:51, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

שלום,‏

אלו לא הודעות, אלא שמות של שפות שכתובים בשפות עצמן. תרגומים של שמות שפות לעברית (ולשפות אחרות) אפשר למצוא באתר הבא:‏

http://cldr.unicode.org/

הוא קצת קשה לניווט, ויש שם לא מעט טעויות (אפשר לתקן אותן, אבל התהליך קצת מעיק), אבל לא נראה לי שתמצא מקור מקיף יותר מזה.‏ Amir E. Aharoni {{🌎🌍🌏}} 20:03, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

בוקר טוב לך ותודה על המענה המהיר.

כונתי כנראה לא הובהרה מספיק. הקובץ שקישרתי אליו אחראי למיטב הבנתי על הצורה שבה המערכת מפענחת את השפות. ראה לדוגמה כאן את קטגוריית הציטוט האדומה (norwegian), לעומת הערך המקביל כאן שתוכנו שווה אבל קטגוריית הציטוט היא בעברית (נורבגית). כשביצעתי תרגומים בקובץ הנ"ל זה שינה את זה לצורה הנכונה (בשפות אחרות זה עבד לי (אנגלית לדוגמה) השפה הספיציפית הזו לא הצלחתי למצוא בקובץ) בגלל זה שאלתי אולי אתה יודע היכן נמצא הקובץ הספיציפי הזה שויקיפדיה העברית משתמשת בו.

בתודה מראש. והמשך יום נעים. בקש (talk) 06:41, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

אולי אם יתקינו במכלול את ההרחבה CLDR, זה יעזור. Amir E. Aharoni {{🌎🌍🌏}} 07:39, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

	The Translator Barnstar
	Thank you so much for your contributions to various extension repositories! Osnard (talk) 13:28, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

Thank you, I'm happy to help :) Amir E. Aharoni {{🌎🌍🌏}} 04:43, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

News and request for help with translations

Hey friend, I've reached out to IKhitron first with some translation request, and he recommended to ask you for a review. Would you be able to help out? SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 20:16, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the request. I'm still dealing with the aftermath of a big move to a new country so my schedule is a bit erratic, but I'll try to find some time. Amir E. Aharoni {{🌎🌍🌏}} 20:30, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

Reading/Web/Accessibility for reading/Community prototype testing - done. It was mostly good, but I've made some corrections. Amir E. Aharoni {{🌎🌍🌏}} 15:05, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

Brazilian Sign Language

Hi, Amire80! I'm trying to add a Brazilian Sign Language (bzs) option to Wikidata, in order to add labels, descriptions and aliases of items in that language. After some research, it seems to me that it has something to do with this "Universal Language Selector", but I can't find where and how to request a language addition. Brazilian Sign Language has a page on TranslateWiki and many Wikidata lexemes and it uses the exact same script as American Sign Language (ase), which is already supported by Wikidata (people can select it at the top of the Wikidata pages). Can you give me some orientation on this matter? EnaldoSS (talk) 15:51, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

I actually don't think that the Universal Language Selector extension is involved in it very much. Moreover, Brazilian Sign Language (bzs) is already included in that extension.

The best help page for your case is probably d:Help:Monolingual text languages. Amir E. Aharoni {{🌎🌍🌏}} 19:29, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Oh, ok. I'll do something on Phabricator then. Thank you! EnaldoSS (talk) 00:18, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Wiki translator

Since Google Translate has improved significantly, we can now publish translations with minimal changes. However, we still need to make adjustments of at least 80%. Is it possible to reduce this percentage? Nayan j Nath (talk) 08:13, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Please ask on Talk:CX. That's a much better place for such questions. Amir E. Aharoni {{🌎🌍🌏}} 21:41, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Special:Diff/6742672

Please also notice the current plural rule file is 10 years old. See phab:T369469. GZWDer (talk) 02:01, 16 September 2024 (UTC)