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Whatever credibility signals you end up packaging for this purpose, it would be great to have a Beta widget that shows those somehow to readers of articles.

I recognize the raw data is out there -- lots of data that could inform credibility is! -- but it's not conveniently cached per page, so for me to look up daily readership, the ORES trust of the latest edit, &c are each separate calls via separate interfaces waiting for separate lag times. I don't want to do that for each article I visit, and even experienced readers in general won't know to.

Hi @Sj - just noting that we've seen this comment and @RBrounley (WMF) will be getting back to you soon.

I like this idea @Sj and I think that as we combine this data together into a single view this could be a potentially very strong signal for readers.

However, just to set our expectations, I think Enterprise APIs will make this easy to create on the projects but I'd want to talk with some of the teams closer to those actual project interfaces that might touch actually creating this type of widget.

Initial versions of credibility signals will live in beta to give us some good cycles to really figure out what is an effective means to tell the story of "credibility" in raw data, it something we're excited to start to unpack. But when it gets there, the projects are more than welcome to use what we have built of course.

I would certainly trust your data viz expertise ;) And to be clear I'm only talking about 'beta' use for editors at first, as in the list of beta features.

I'd ideally like to see a progression something like this:

• Someone building "credibility signals" library makes (or commissions, or asks for help with) a gadget showcasing them --> the ideal audience would be people who care about making cred signals effective, and community devs/designers already building tools for editors. It's useful for people building the library to connect with the people telling credibility stories from imperfect data today, with almost no comprehensive data, on the projects. [people maintaining CiteUnseen, RSN + RS:P, other widgets].
• As you design and promote 'usable signals' to E users, have parallel conversations w/ community users
• This gets on the long tail of 'potential beta features' b/c of its obvious potential widespread benefits

Warmly!