Topic on Project talk:Proposal for changing logo of MediaWiki, 2020

If proposal 6 was successful, proposal 5 also should have been successful. Seems like another attempt by the initiator/closer (yes, they are the same person) to use their own point of view

Proposal 5 have more than 2/3 support, this is classic wiki border in votings.

Why proposal 1 is not closed yet with a % of support?

Yeah I think someone needs to reevaluate this closure. The fact that it was closed by not only someone heavily involved but '''the person who started the proposal''' does not help either

@Iniquity - who can we ask to settle this?

I took on faith 71% that the @Ladsgroup put, but it was a mistake. Real number much lower.

It's not just the percentage, it's the number too, 60 support vs. 12 support is much smaller in borderline cases. I would be happy if someone double check this. How the actual number is a mistake?

13 pro / 9 contra / 1 neutral = 23 total

13/23 = 0,5652173913043478

In Wikimedia (at least fawiki and enwiki where I edit) we don't count neutral as total otherwise it would be the same as oppose.

or we do not count neutral votes to calculate %?

i'll fix this

I don't think we should accept anything lower than 70% TBH. At least for RfAs, RfCs and other things, nothing below 70% passes unless a very good reason (as a 'crat)

It don't change the picture, there is only one proposal with 74% (63 votes pro), the other two options with the most votes have 56% (29 votes pro) and 61% (25 votes pro). In ruwiki we have 2/3 = 66,(6) as usual border (for admins votes) and 3/4=75% for buerocrats votes.

Why was it changed from 71% though? At least proposal 5 is a variant on the current logo. All of the options in proposal 6 are terrible. People should be able to vote between specifically those two.

I don't know where 71% was from

13 pro / 9 contra = 22 total

13/22 ~ 59%

I would have read this as proposal 14 having enough support to warrant consideration in round 2.

Yes, but 1- 60% is still pretty small, I don't recall any successful RfC in any wiki that would pass with that percentage 2- The opposes in this proposal seem to be pretty stronger than the other proposals.