Topic on Template talk:ShippedWithBlueSpice

Was is the intention of this template? Similar to the WMF template "OnWikimedia" (see extension cite: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite) it is the intention to give extension pages a marker, that this extension is used in bundles and distributions. So developers get a feedback that their extensions are on "best off" lists. Users get the impression, that this extension is somehow a standard. And the community (including WMF) learns to know which extensions they should keep in mind if they are changing technological structures.

Of course it is also an "advertisement" for BlueSpice, but as explained elsewhere, it does not have to be in the long run. And we have used the template very sparingly for these reasons as well. The previous version should be revised. And because of the current deletion discussion, we have now stopped further distribution.

I find the feedback in the discussion so far very productive. There is the idea to replace this banner with a more general "used by" template that names several distributions, bundles and projects. Maybe even with an RfC in advance.

From that point of view, the deletion would be automatic once the improved template is available.

Whether or not this template should be deleted, let me note that "very sparingly" doesn't seem accurate - according to WhatLinksHere, this template has been added to 367 pages, representing maybe 100 different extensions.

Oo. I was not aware of that. Obviously, I wasn't up to date. But then it also shows that a new template will mean work. Every distribution has to make and maintain entries for more than a hundred pages.

Well, only those distributions that have more than a hundred extensions.

Currently 69 extensions.

Creating a new, more generic "used by" template could be a solution. Until this exists, I vote for removing Template:ShippedWithBlueSpice. This would give every distribution the same fair chance of starting from scratch.

And what's your contribution?

I can also live without any "used by" template. If you want to keep this kind of template, do it in a fair manner and rework the existing template.

Hello, everyone, as the person ultimately responsible for the template, I also agree that the template may be deleted. It was not the intention to get on people's toes here. In fact I misjudged the effect. 1. My colleague Margit deleted the content of the template earlier, so that the banner is no longer visible once the cache has been cleared. 2. If we delete the template, can an admin help us to remove the entries with ReplaceText? Or what is the procedure here? 3. I have a proposal for a new "UsedBy" template. Where and in what context should it be discussed if this page is deleted? (if somebody will take a first look: https://en.wiki.bluespice.com/wiki/File:Draft_Template_UsedBy.jpg)

Extension:ReplaceText isn't installed on Wikimedia wikis but I can remove the template using AutoWikiBrowser.

For the new template, I believe Project:Current issues would be the best place to start a discussion.

OK. Perfect. Thank you!

Richard - nice mockup! I would just create a page in the main namespace for this proposal, like 'Proposed "Used by" template', or any other name - put the explanation for your proposed template there, and then we can go from there.

Personally, I considered it positive, as a kind of advertisement, that this template was added to a extension is maintain. However, I like the idea of a generalized version convering all kind of vendors.

The discussion about a generalized version will now continue on Project:Current issues, as this thread is now finished with the removal of this template. Thanks everyone for your time, ideas and critizism!

@94rain: Why did you undelete this? This discussion shows a pretty clear consensus to delete the template to me.

I didn't realize there existed a deletion discussion when I deleted the page. When I saw this thread, I restored the page immediately without reading through the dicussion.

There is indeed clear consensus, but I think I'd better not act on it again. I am fine with you or any other admin deleting it.

I removed the template and all subpages per consensus. I'm leaving this talk page alone since it might be useful for creating the new used by template but I have no objections if anyone else wants to delete it.