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Discussion on "Email new editors their impact (5)"

MMiller (WMF) (talkcontribs)
Arthur Crbz (talkcontribs)

Weak Support but not through emails as we have a powerful notification tool. For instance on Commons, we can encourage uploaders to use the pictures on Wikimedia projects: "Congratulations, PICTURE X has been displayed on Y pages accross Wikimedia Projects !".

But imagine you send this email or notification, when do you send it? After 10, 100, 1000 views? Quite hard to determine.

What if I have created 24 recent pages. How many notifications/emails about views I will get?

Leaderboard (talkcontribs)

Weird; has too many questions to answer. What happens for users who only make simple or grammatical corrections? For a page which already existed, how will the user's contributions be measured? Is this proposal assuming that only pages will be created?

Sadads (talkcontribs)

I really like this idea: we often do a bad job at articulating how the small contributions add up to overall value, and we should do a better job at signalling impact.

Kerry Raymond (talkcontribs)

Look at the Outreach Dashboard, it can show you the cumulative count of how many times an article has been viewed since you edited it. That's the impact of your effort and it gets bigger over time. OK, it isn't smart about things like your edit being undone. But for good faith users, it's quite motivating. We have used it for 1Lib1Ref and other programs and it's very popular. See this example which shows how 20 mostly new users contributed (collectively) 1000 edits, which has resulted in 8 million page views since the edit occurred. That's impact! Why can't we do things like this for individuals, particularly new ones? Suppose a person makes one little change and then next week they get an email saying there's been 100 views of the article since their change. Then by one month it's 400. Maybe that motivates them just a little more to do another little edit. I certainly think it's worth doing for lapsed editors to try to get them back. I would use email if that is provided (we can have an unsubscribe and an on-wiki preference to disable it or throttle it down) for newer users as they may not yet be aware of the mighty power of the notification system yet (if there's any doubt, yes that was sarcasm).

علاء (talkcontribs)

I don't like the email solution, or to send email per month for all user pages views.

But, I think it'll be better to put (Pageviews Analysis) button in an easier place to reach, it's now only in history page for each article (like here).

Before one year, I create this video (Also here), also I share it in arwiki F.B page (more than 1K views) and instagram account, so I noticed that many users (and almost all readers) not know this option is available in Wikipedia, the very strange thing that almost experienced users not know about it.

Also, we have a gadget in arwiki, that make Pageviews Analysis button appear in the sidebar.

So, if we put this button in more suitable place, it'll be very good and helpful.

Jetam2 (talkcontribs)

An interesting idea. Moderate support if done automatically and as an opt-in. It is interesting but I dare say sometimes could be discouraging. Some articles get few views on It might be good to do this within the first few days when numbers are usually somewhat higher (and the user might still be active) rather than after a month or even a week.

MMiller (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Thank you all for weighing in on this "Email new editors their impact" idea. Our team discussed all the feedback, and I've summarized it here. We're now figuring out whether to pursue this idea, and we'll be back to discuss more if we decide to work on it (please sign up for our newsletter to get updates on our plans).

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