Topic on VisualEditor/Feedback/Flow

Summary by Elitre (WMF)
Assassas77 (talkcontribs)

Hi,

I tried to use the visual editor on Wikisource. I have the option enabled on the beta tools in my settings. However, when I switch from Wikicode edition to Visual Editor, I lose the header I just typed in. Instead, the main body of the page is moved to the header. When I go back to Wikicode, the body is at the right place but the header vanished.

Elitre (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Hi there. Can you give me an example of where this happened? Thanks.

Assassas77 (talkcontribs)

Initially, I tried on the French Wikisource, for example, on that page : On the French one, body is moved to header in the visual editor, but moves back to the body section on wikicode editon.

I tried as well on the English Wikisource, for example here : On the English example, Wikicode => Visual is doing ok, but Visual => Wikicode : the header is moved to the body with brackets.

Elitre (WMF) (talkcontribs)
Tpt (talkcontribs)

@Assassas77 Thank you for the bug report. Sadly the VisualEditor support of the Page: pages is still buggy and I do not have the weeks needed to get a good enough understanding of VisualEditor internals to make the required changes in it to fix these problems. The Edit team thinks that this support is not a priority at all so this project is stalled since a few years and will not be fixed any time soon if no VisualEditor person takes their free time to fix these problems (or there is a strategy shift at the WMF to care about Wikisource).

To summary the VisualEditor is enabled on Wikisource but should still be considered as an early alpha.

Assassas77 (talkcontribs)

@TptOk, I understand :)

Deskana (WMF) (talkcontribs)

@Tpt Hi! Yes, the Editing team is not prioritising support of integration between the VisualEditor and ProofreadPage right now. However, I would love to know how the team can support your efforts in integrating them, to see if I can organise that. Thanks!

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talkcontribs)

On a related note, at least the English Wikisource frequently uses templates rather than HTML for formatting (e.g., {{larger|My text}} instead of <big>My text</big> tags), which is going to make editing many pages somewhat uncomfortable. Proofreading such content might get easier when it's possible to edit templates inline/as rich objects, but putting the source into the templates in the first place would still involve a lot of copying and pasting.

Tpt (talkcontribs)

@Deskana (WMF) Tank you very much for your reply! You could have a look at the "VisualEditor" column of the ProofreadPage workboard to see which are the most important problems.

@Assassas77 I have created a task on Phabricator about the problem. Thank you again for reporting it.