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Random Desktop Printing Feedback

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TJones (WMF) (talkcontribs)

1: I appreciate the desire to decrease usage of paper and ink, but for those of us with eyes that aren't so great anymore, an option to increase the font size wouldn't hurt.

2: The TOC seems to have a lot of unneeded white space. It seems likely that decreasing the leading a bit would save a whole page in this case.

3: I miss the page numbers on hardcopy.

4: An option to omit the Notes, References, and/or External Links would save 6-7 pages. They are nice, but if I really need them, I know where to find them online.

5: Extra nerdy suggestion: given that this is hardcopy, a little QR code for the URL would be a nice way to link back to the online document. Especially in cases like this example, where the URL includes an "oldid" parameter.

Overall it looks great—clean and modern!

TheDJ (talkcontribs)

1: I think this is a valid point, and I think long term it would be VERY handy if you could select this before rendering. But that is a more complex feature

2: I agree with you, some condensing there of the space is probably required. Ideally, I think presence of toc, (and toc numbering of headers) should be options as well. I think that it would also be very nice, if we can move the toc to not be INLINE. It should just be on a separate page, instead of next to infoboxes when printing.

3: Unfortunately, web renderers still have terrible options for things like this. There's a spec, but implementation is abysmal: https://drafts.csswg.org/css-page-3

4: I have a browser gadget that does some of this btw: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TheDJ/Print_options

It needs some work atm, because it clashes with the normal print dialog sometimes. I'm pretty sure that with additional effort we can improve the new PDF rendering to also provide options like these.

5: Oh fancy idea to have a QR code !

Volker E. (WMF) (talkcontribs)

@TJones (WMF) Thanks for the feedback!

Regarding 5: QR codes are having several user experience shortcomings:

  • In most cases, you will need an extra app in order to being able to use them
  • They take up quite some space (& paper & ink)
  • They are not self-explaining, you need to (extensively) guide users how to use them. For an unexperienced user a QR Code would be a hurdle to overcome

A shortcode URL seems possibly to be a better alternative.

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