Front-end standards group/2015-10-16

2015-10-16

Agenda

Social

• Workboards improvement for visibility?
• Separation between this group and UI standardization group?
  • Separation useful, there will be some overlap in terms of people, VE will look into issues across boards and possibly come up with a new Phab workboard.

Action & Code

Follow-up

• Answer to questioning your manager for 1 hour every other week to work on front end standards group tasks
  • Half the attendees work for Trevor so that's OK :P
• Less and future CSS vars naming https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual_talk:Coding_conventions/CSS#Less_and_future_CSS_variable_naming_convention (VE)
• Similar approach to jshint/jscs for Less/CSS? TP
  • JF & TT: Stylelint and PostCSS
  • PostCSS: https://github.com/postcss/postcss (and https://github.com/nDmitry/grunt-postcss)
  • StyleLint: https://github.com/stylelint/stylelint
  • VisualEditor patch to use PostCSS: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/243233/

New quests

• Why not using normalize.css? https://github.com/necolas/normalize.css (VE) [attempted as https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/110908/ some time ago]
  + BD/VE
  • The library doesn't seem to be actively maintained anymore
  • Has some bugs we'd have to iron out ourselves
    • There was an attempt to bring it into core ~a year ago: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/110908/ (it was actually a fork fixing some of the aforementioned bugs), blocked by Krinkle and Daniel F.
  • Probably a good idea anyway, if we don't mind maintaining it ourselves

• Color property values in CSS Coding Conventions https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Coding_conventions/CSS#Color_property_values

Postponed to next meeting:

• A standard way of doing hash fragment routing in MediaWiki? (JR)
• Better JS minification? (RK, JR)
  • Max Semenik proposed changing from JavaScriptMinifier to UglifyJS a while ago, but there were some concerns around performance and reliability. Nowadays after the reorg, the performance team is doing a great job of owning ResourceLoader, so we should talk to Timo and Ori about this

Discussion

• This meeting should be opened to more community members
• Reschedule?
  • VE offering to ask Sarah to find a new time (not on Fridays)
    • People say time is OK, but a day that is not Friday would be nice
  • TP: we should switch to BlueJeans for capacity reasons

Participants

• Andrew (AG)
• Bartosz (BD)
• Julien (JG)
• Nirzar (NP)
• Prateek (PS)
• Trevor (TP)
• Volker (VE)
• Roan (RK)
• Moiz (MS)
• Ed (ES)