Architecture meetings/RFC review 2014-12-03

#wikimedia-office: RFC meeting

Meeting started by TimStarling at 20:58:54 UTC. The full logs are available at https://tools.wmflabs.org/meetbot/wikimedia-office/2014/wikimedia-office.2014-12-03-20.58.log.html .

Meeting summary

• Shadow namespaces | RFC meeting | PLEASE SCHEDULE YOUR OFFICE HOURS: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours | Please note: Channel is logged and publicly posted (DO NOT REMOVE THIS NOTE) | Logs: http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/logs/%23wikimedia-office/ (TimStarling, 20:59:13)
  • LINK: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Shadow_namespaces (TimStarling, 21:00:51)
  • LINK: https://bn.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E0%A6%AC%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%B6%E0%A7%87%E0%A6%B7:AllPages/Module: (TimStarling, 21:20:52)
  • ACTION: Marybelle or someone to give rationale for shadow namespaces versus explicit remote transclusion for lua modules (TimStarling, 21:27:39)
  • some use cases seem to benefit from remote parsing, e.g. help pages, some seem to need local parsing, e.g. lua modules (TimStarling, 21:28:34)
  • cache invalidation by pub-sub? socket? polling? existing rcstream? (TimStarling, 21:29:09)
  • global gadgets already mostly implemented, split off to a different RFC (TimStarling, 21:30:19)
  • <Marybelle> I think for this RFC, doing a first implementation might just be for user pages or help pages. (TimStarling, 21:32:22)

• Opt-in site registration during installation | RFC meeting | PLEASE SCHEDULE YOUR OFFICE HOURS: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours | Please note: Channel is logged and publicly posted (DO NOT REMOVE THIS NOTE) | Logs: http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/logs/%23wikimedia-office/ (Meeting topic: RFC meeting) (TimStarling, 21:36:17)
  • LINK: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Opt-in_site_registration_during_installation (TimStarling, 21:36:25)
  • ACTION: add "Check for updates" button to Special:Version for users in proper group (hexmode, 22:00:25)
    Tracked in Phabricator
    Task T85456
    
  • implementation must be opt-in (TimStarling, 22:00:54)
  • ACTION: add checkbox to opt-in to regular update checks without intervention (hexmode, 22:01:31)
  • installer ping back seems to be desired in most proposals here (TimStarling, 22:02:04)
  • make clear who is being polled and what mw is sending (hexmode, 22:02:43)
  • polling of opted-in wikis via API would help to monitor extension usage of public wikis (TimStarling, 22:03:13)
  • installer integration not needed for first implementation (hexmode, 22:03:52)
  • poke admins every n weeks to check for updates (after login?) (DanielK_WMDE, 22:04:28)

Meeting ended at 22:07:53 UTC.

Action items

• Marybelle or someone to give rationale for shadow namespaces versus explicit remote transclusion for lua modules
• add "Check for updates" button to Special:Version for users in proper group
• add checkbox to opt-in to regular update checks without intervention

Action items, by person

• Marybelle
  • Marybelle or someone to give rationale for shadow namespaces versus explicit remote transclusion for lua modules
• **UNASSIGNED**
  • add "Check for updates" button to Special:Version for users in proper group
  • add checkbox to opt-in to regular update checks without intervention

People present (lines said)

• Marybelle (112)
• TimStarling (69)
• DanielK_WMDE (66)
• mglaser (42)
• hexmode (38)
• legoktm (35)
• ^d (23)
• Helder (8)
• wm-labs-meetbot (3)
• csteipp (2)
• MaxSem (1)
• GethN7 (1)

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