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Flow/Prior discussion-thread-roundup

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A brief roundup I made, whilst re-reading through the archives.

[Note: This is partially for my own benefit, so that I can find things easily without having to search 2 wikis and multiple subpages; and partially for the community's benefit, to prove that I am actually passing these ideas along to the devs!

However, a lot of my job seems to consist of communicating these issues via: email, webcam-meetings, IRC, bugzilla, and mingle cards, so it's not always going to be obvious that I've passed along specific details. I won't promise to keep this list uptodate and canonical, especially because most of these threads are about the pre-pre-pre-prototypes and abstract notes and other confusion. I will be doing my damnedest in the background though, to read everything twice, and nudge the crucial/critical/interesting details along to where they're needed and will be seen. I have been doing so for the past few weeks, and will (hopefully) continue for the next few months/years!] –Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 20:49, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Some lists of Discussions about... edit

Design Density (horizontal (fixedwidth) and vertical (padding)) edit

 
Some initial thoughts.
 
An example picture saving space.
w:Wikipedia talk:Flow/Design FAQ

Indenting Levels edit

mw:Flow Portal/Design/FAQ#How will the limited indenting/threading system help?
Post-April 2015 change

Table Of Contents / Collapsing Threads edit

Flow/Table of Contents spec

Thread Order edit

Interface Wording edit

Post Layout edit

Design Terminology (Board Vs Talk) edit

Conflicting Permissions (cross-board, cross-wiki) edit

Editing Someone Else's Post - Permissions edit

mw:Flow Portal/Editing comments

Post Moderation edit

Deleting comments edit

Other edit

Concerns about access to viewing or editing others' posts edit

>Sorry, I should have been clearer. By default, Flow lets you edit your own comments,
>and lets admins edit all comments, just like typical forum conventions. It
>just doesn't let everyone edit everything.
But that's not how wikis work. On other platforms that do support such editing at all, users edit their own articles, and their own comments, with only moderators trusted to change them. But on wikis, the users are also the moderators. This applies to content and comments, and admins are only required where things can become sensitive (where concerns of privacy, site stability, or simply dangerous tools in terms of vandalism come into play). Why the sudden divergence that only admins can be mods here? Discussions aren't sensitive.
This sort of thing is a large part of why some of us are so skeptical of Flow currently - if the designers do not even understand the basic principles behind a wiki, how can what is developed possibly suit our needs?

Archives edit

Bots edit

Note: Bots already use the API, so many updates should be easy. Notes for that, and for edge cases, and related suggestions are here:

Search and infinite scroll edit

about search:

Edit Conflicts edit

Scratchpads edit

Splitting Threads edit

Accessibility (Incl. javascript concerns) edit

Workflows edit

Voting edit

Tags edit

Multitopic edit

Why Do We Need It edit

w:Wikipedia:Flow#Rationale

Community engagement edit

Wikitext Vs. Visualeditor edit

Miscellaneous edit

Subpages edit

Dates and timestamps edit

Signatures and avatars edit

Edit summaries edit

Unread posts edit

Titlebar info edit

Permalinks and internal links edit

https://trello.com/c/WT8GymA1/ - Snapshot permanent links

Watchlist contents edit

See also #Search and infinite scroll

+1 plus 1 edit

Refactoring edit

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