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Hi!
I tried to find where I could fix a translation error myself on translatewiki, but I cannot find it, so maybe you can help me?
In the nl: version of VE "citation" is translated as "citeren". This however means "quoting" and very confusing to the Dutch. A better translation would be "referentie". (as in "reference")
@Ciell there is a little trick. you can add "&uselang=qqx" to the url of a webpage (or ?uselang=qqx depends a bit on the url) and this special languagecode will show you the names of all the messages used in the interface:
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aomi?veaction=editsource&uselang=qqx
So in this case you are looking for the MediaWiki message: MediaWiki:Citoid-citoidtool-title
Very interesting @TheDJ!
But that doesn't show the VE-buttons to me? It does show all the different tabs on a page.
It looks like you found it: https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=MediaWiki:Citoid-citoidtool-title/nl&diff=9107632&oldid=8787415
Yes, I did correct that one.
But my question is a general one: the "=qqx"-trick is interesting, in cases where you don't know the name of the right Mediawiki: page. But it doesn't show me the buttons?
@TheDJ There's another thing we have to solve before we can implement the VE. The citation list ('referentielijst' - Mediawiki:cite-ve-dialogbutton-referenceslist-tooltip) now gives the wrong parameters, we prefer a template instead of wikicode. Where can I have this changed?
@Ciell I don't think that is changeable. If you want to use a template, you should be using the template inserter, not the references list inserter. On en.wp we have made the layout of <references /> equal to the layout of {{reflist}}. And using it like that, will also make the params of the template unreachable, see usages of {{Reflist}} inside of english wikipedia. Because it sees the references element inside of the template, it knows that it will have to live update that content (based on refs beings added/removed etc), and other changes are for that reason not possible.
Of course, you can manipulate the Toolbar using Javascript to do whatever you want. But that is up to the communities that want to deviate from standards.
@TheDJ Thank you very much for your reply.
Could you maybe have a look at our template, to see if your solution would work for WPNL as well?
Please see https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sjabloon:References for the template I'm referring to.
Well the biggest problem for nlwp that I just noticed, is their multilevel wrapping.. Appendix -> References -> <references /> By default they already hardly use ANY of their {{references}} template options, so those would probably be easy to get rid of, but this multilevel wrapping makes it so that the 'fix' that was made for reflist to make it updatable even though it is not a true <references /> element, doesn't work as the <references /> cannot be found nested inside a template. I'll have to take a look later at the exact template options and if and how they are needed.
Please consider including formatting—e.g. background, alignment, etc—when copy/pasting cells in a table. It seems easy enough to include the whole content in the cell—e.g. ||align=center style=background:yellow | 243,567||—rather than selecting out the text part only||align=center style=background:yellow | 243,567||
Is it? Perhaps later, one could also think of implementing paste values and paste format options.
URL: https://fi.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gleicheniaceae&action=edit&redlink=1
Nyt aloittamani artikkeli katosi kokonaan!!!!! Pari tuntia turhaa työtä - kyllä ottaa päähän.
URL: https://fi.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gleicheniaceae&action=edit&redlink=1
Yritän kirjoittaa artikkelia, mutta esim. viite- ja otsikkovempaimet eivät oikein toimi. Nyt olen jäänyt jumiin enkä voi jatkaa artikkelia loppuun.
URL: https://ca.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Identitat_2.0&veaction=edit&redlink=1
In Wikipedia outside of the visual editor, I can clear the Edit Summary suggestions that I used in previous edits. I just press delete in the dropdown, whatever suggestion appears as I type a new summary, either one by one or delete them all by keeping to press the delete button as another one appears. I cannot do this when the suggestion dropdown appears in Visual Editor's "Publish changes" box. And I have not found any setting or preference where I can do that. Normal wikipedia editor box basically functions as part of my browser's website input box suggestion history system — while on the other hand the Visual Editor seem to have its own separate suggestion mechanism that independently saves all previous edit summaries associated with my login and used within the Visual Editor. How do I sweep that clean?
Me too. And I've found outthat Edit Summary suggestions are shown only when I'm logged in.
English I've found out a trouble, VisualEditor insert unrequested and wrong "<kdb><nowiki/></kdb>".
I had made an edit w:it:Special:Diff/109116853 in an article to add a template, but soon an other user fixed it w:it:Special:Diff/109121911, stating "Lint errors: List and Table" (which I do not know what they are...). I see he has removed an "<kdb><nowiki/></kdb>" which was inserted by my VisualEditor edit whitout me being aware and without me having issued any command to do so.
Italiano Ho notato un problema, VisualEditor inserisce dei "<kdb><nowiki/></kdb>" non richiesti ed errati.
Avevo fatto una modifica w:it:Special:Diff/109116853 a una voce per aggiungere un templare, poco dopo un altro utente l'ha corretta w:it:Special:Diff/109121911, indicando "Errori di Lint: List and Table" (che non so cosa siano...). Mi accorgo che ha rimosso un "<kdb><nowiki/></kdb>" che era stato inserito con la mia modifica da VisualEditor senza che io me ne accorgessi e senza che io avessi dato alcun comando perché ciò avvenisse.
it throws:
jQuery.Deferred exception: Cannot set property 'section' of undefined TypeError: Cannot set property 'section' of undefined
jQuery.Deferred exception: Cannot read property 'on' of undefined TypeError: Cannot read property 'on' of undefined
jQuery.Deferred exception: Cannot read property 'on' of undefined TypeError: Cannot read property 'on' of undefined
During editing en:Dhul-Qarnayn, decided to duplicate the opened ?veaction=edit tab. Processor usage suddenly jumped up and the page I was editing through the VisualEditor froze and then crashed. Even after refreshing and hard-refreshing any Dhul-Qarnayn?veaction=edit page still keeps on crashing. VisualEditor works fine on other pages and for Dhul-Qarnayn too in incognito mode.
Spent a few hours on the research and editing of that article, any possibilities of recovery? Already checked browser cache, required data appears to be absent.
Chrome - 78.0.3904.87 (Official Build) (64-bit)
Windows 10 (1903)
Vector
Update: After this event, Chrome updated to v78.0.3904.97; relaunched browser, however the ?veaction=edit page still kept on crashing. After some time, the page finally got loaded with most (but not all) of the edits recovered.