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Phantom-User

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Hi Danwe, ich betreibe ein kleines geschlossenes Wiki. Um neuen Usern Zugang zu gewähren, habe ich einen Phantom-User angelegt. Der ist von mir gesperrt, nur die Option "Benutzerkonto anlegen" ist erlaubt. Damit soll der neue User sich ein eigenes Konto anmelden. Dies wird ihm aber verwehrt, weil die Meldung "Die erforderlichen Rechte fehlen" (als Phantom-User). Wie muß ich es richtig machen? LG 2003:E7:A720:8C54:1906:A6E9:1DEC:3857 (talk) 22:33, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

Bei einem geschlossenen Wiki ergibt ein Phantom-User keinen Sinn. Ich empfehle, den Schreibzugriff für Nutzer zu deaktivieren, sowie deren Möglichkeit Benutzerkonten zu erstellen. Benutzerkonten werden dann vom Admin erstellt. Dies ist der entsprechende Code für die Datei "LocalSettings.php":

$wgGroupPermissions['*']['read'] = false;
$wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] = false;
$wgGroupPermissions['*']['createaccount'] = false;
$wgGroupPermissions['user']['edit'] = false;
$wgGroupPermissions['user']['createaccount'] = false;
$wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['edit'] = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['createaccount'] = true;

Gib bitte Danwe Bescheid, daß Du auch hier gefragt und eine Antwort erhalten hast. Besten Dank. [[kgh]] (talk) 05:08, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

Vielen Dank für Deine schnelle Antwort und sorry für den Fauxpas mit der falschen Anrede :o) Danwe informiere ich. LG 2003:E7:A720:8C54:259D:FA32:D9A5:C65F (talk) 12:06, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

Gerne. Bitte verweise stets auf andere Posts gleichen Inhalts. So wird unnötige Zeitverschwendung durch doppelte Beantwortung von Fragen vermieden. Die Zeit fehlt letztlich bei der Beantwortung weiterer Fragen. [[kgh]] (talk) 18:52, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

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MediaWiki + Large Language Models

Hello Karsten,

Did you by any chance stumble upon an initiative to build an extension for interfacing wikis and LLMs ? Wikis make formidable knowledge bases. Interrogating them in natural language whilst getting sourced and reliable results is the future. The collaborative philosophy of a wiki then feeds back into making the knowledge provided by the AI better.

We're looking at developing that capacity over at Wikimedica. Tinss (talk) 03:06, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

Hi, thank you for reaching out. No, I did not so far. My company provides development services. If you have a project tied up for this, you could contact info@professional.wiki to elaborate further. [[kgh]] (talk) 13:12, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

Thanks ! I feel an extension like that would provide great value added to the enterprise MediaWiki sphere. For that reason it should be freely available.

There is a bunch of medical MediaWikis out there. I'll reach out to them and see if we can team up some resources. Tinss (talk) 17:18, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

Tech News: 2023-19

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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• Last week, Community Tech released the first update for providing better diffs, the #1 request in the 2022 Community Wishlist Survey. This update adds legends and tooltips to inline diffs so that users unfamiliar with the blue and yellow highlights can better understand the type of edits made.
• When you close an image that is displayed via MediaViewer, it will now return to the wiki page instead of going back in your browser history. This feature request was voted #65 in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey. [1]
• The SyntaxHighlight extension now supports wikitext as a selected language. Old alternatives that were used to highlight wikitext, such as html5, moin, and html+handlebars, can now be replaced. [2]
• Preloading text to new pages/sections now supports preloading from localized MediaWiki interface messages. Here is an example at the Czech Wikipedia that uses preload=MediaWiki:July. [3]

Problems

• Graph Extension update: Foundation developers have completed upgrading the visualization software to Vega5. Existing community graphs based on Vega2 are no longer compatible. Communities need to update local graphs and templates, and shared lua modules like de:Modul:Graph. The Vega Porting guide provides the most comprehensive detail on migration from Vega2 and here is an example migration. Vega5 has currently just been enabled on mediawiki.org to provide a test environment for communities. [4]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 May. It will be on all wikis from 11 May (calendar).
• Until now, all new OAuth apps went through manual review. Starting this week, apps using identification-only or basic authorizations will not require review. [5]

Future changes

• During the next year, MediaWiki will stop using IP addresses to identify logged-out users, and will start automatically assigning unique temporary usernames. Read more at IP Editing: Privacy Enhancement and Abuse Mitigation/Updates. You can join the discussion about the format of the temporary usernames. [6]
• There will be an A/B test on 10 Wikipedias where the Vector 2022 skin is the default skin. Half of logged-in desktop users will see an interface where the different parts of the page are more clearly separated. You can read more. [7][8]
• jquery.tipsy will be removed from the MediaWiki core. This will affect some user scripts. Many lines with .tipsy( can be commented out. OO.ui.PopupWidget can be used to keep things working like they are now. You can read more and read about how to find broken scripts. [9]

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MediaWiki message delivery 00:34, 9 May 2023 (UTC) MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:34, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2023-21

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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• The "recent edits" time period for page watchers is now 30 days. It used to be 180 days. This was a Community Wishlist Survey proposal. [10]

Changes later this week

• An improved impact module will be available at Wikipedias. The impact module is a feature available to newcomers at their personal homepage. It will show their number of edits, how many readers their edited pages have, how many thanks they have received and similar things. It is also accessible by accessing Special:Impact. [11]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 23 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 24 May. It will be on all wikis from 25 May (calendar).

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16:52, 22 May 2023 (UTC) MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:52, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2023-23

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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• The RealMe extension allows you to mark URLs on your user page as verified for Mastodon and similar software.
• Citation and footnote editing can now be started from the reference list when using the visual editor. This feature request was voted #2 in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey. [12]
• Previously, clicking on someone else's link to Recent Changes with filters applied within the URL could unintentionally change your preference for "Group results by page". This has now been fixed. [13]

Problems

• For a few days last week, some tools and bots returned outdated information due to database replication problems, and may have been down entirely while it was being fixed. These issues have now been fixed. [14]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 6 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 7 June. It will be on all wikis from 8 June (calendar).
• Bots will no longer be prevented from making edits because of URLs that match the spam blacklist. [15]

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MediaWiki message delivery 22:50, 5 June 2023 (UTC) MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:50, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

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Cite extension

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Kghbln hi, do you know how to change the icon of the Cite extension? Link : ibb.co/nDQ6RmN Bomyy (talk) 18:23, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

The icon is provided by the WikiEdtior extension.

Do yourself a favor and ask on the talk page of the Cite extension. This way also others may get to know of a solution if one was posted. [[kgh]] (talk) 18:39, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2023-28

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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• The Section-level Image Suggestions feature has been deployed on seven Wikipedias (Portuguese, Russian, Indonesian, Catalan, Hungarian, Finnish and Norwegian Bokmål). The feature recommends images for articles on contributors' watchlists that are a good match for individual sections of those articles.
• Global abuse filters have been enabled on all Wikimedia projects, except English and Japanese Wikipedias (who opted out). This change was made following a global request for comments. [16]
• Special:BlockedExternalDomains is a new tool for administrators to help fight spam. It provides a clearer interface for blocking plain domains (and their subdomains), is more easily searchable, and is faster for the software to process for each edit on the wiki. It does not support regex (for complex cases), nor URL path-matching, nor the MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist, but otherwise it replaces most of the functionalities of the existing MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist. There is a Python script to help migrate all simple domains into this tool, and more feature details, within the tool's documentation. It is available at all wikis except for Meta-wiki, Commons, and Wikidata. [17]
• The WikiEditor extension was updated. It includes some of the most frequently used features of wikitext editing. In the past, many of its messages could only be translated by administrators, but now all regular translators on translatewiki can translate them. Please check the state of WikiEditor localization into your language, and if the "Completion" for your language shows anything less than 100%, please complete the translation. See a more detailed explanation.

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 11 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 12 July. It will be on all wikis from 13 July (calendar).
• The default protocol of Special:LinkSearch and API counterparts has changed from http to both http and https. [18]
• Special:LinkSearch and its API counterparts will now search for all of the URL provided in the query. It used to be only the first 60 characters. This feature was requested fifteen years ago. [19]

Future changes

• There is an experiment with a ChatGPT plugin. This is to show users where the information is coming from when they read information from Wikipedia. It has been tested by Wikimedia Foundation staff and other Wikimedians. Soon all ChatGPT plugin users can use the Wikipedia plugin. This is the same plugin which was mentioned in Tech News 2023/20. [20]
• There is an ongoing discussion on a proposed Third-party resources policy. The proposal will impact the use of third-party resources in gadgets and userscripts. Based on the ideas received so far, policy includes some of the risks related to user scripts and gadgets loading third-party resources, some best practices and exemption requirements such as code transparency and inspectability. Your feedback and suggestions are warmly welcome until July 17, 2023 on on the policy talk page.

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MediaWiki message delivery 19:51, 10 July 2023 (UTC) MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:51, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2023-31

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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• The Synchronizer tool is now available to keep Lua modules synced across Wikimedia wikis, along with updated documentation to develop global Lua modules and templates.
• The tag filter on Special:NewPages and revision history pages can now be inverted. For example, you can hide edits that were made using an automated tool. [21][22]
• The Wikipedia ChatGPT plugin experiment can now be used by ChatGPT users who can use plugins. You can participate in a video call if you want to talk about this experiment or similar work. [23]

Problems

• It was not possible to generate a PDF for pages with non-Latin characters in the title, for the last two weeks. This has now been fixed. [24]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 1 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 2 August. It will be on all wikis from 3 August (calendar).
• Starting on Tuesday, a new set of Wikipedias will get "Add a link" (Georgian Wikipedia, Kara-Kalpak Wikipedia, Kabyle Wikipedia, Kabardian Wikipedia, Kabiyè Wikipedia, Kikuyu Wikipedia, Kazakh Wikipedia, Khmer Wikipedia, Kannada Wikipedia, Kashmiri Wikipedia, Colognian Wikipedia, Kurdish Wikipedia, Cornish Wikipedia). This is part of the progressive deployment of this tool to more Wikipedias. The communities can configure how this feature works locally. [25]

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Tech News: 2023-35

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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• As part of the changes for the better diff handling of paragraph splits, improved detection of splits is being rolled out. Over the last two weeks, we deployed this support to group0 and group1 wikis. This week it will be deployed to group2 wikis. [26]
• All Special:Contributions pages now show the user's local edit count and the account's creation date. [27]
• Wikisource users can now use the prpbengalicurrency label to denote Bengali currency characters as page numbers inside the <pagelist> tag. [28]
• Two preferences have been relocated. The preference "Enable the visual editor" is now shown on the "Editing" tab at all wikis. Previously it was shown on the "Beta features" tab at some wikis. The preference "Use the wikitext mode inside the visual editor, instead of a different wikitext editor" is now also shown on the "Editing" tab at all wikis, instead of the "Beta features" tab. [29][30]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 29 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 30 August. It will be on all wikis from 31 August (calendar).
• New signups for a Wikimedia developer account will start being pushed towards idm.wikimedia.org, rather than going via Wikitech. Further information about the new system is available.
• All right-to-left language wikis, plus Korean, Armenian, Ukrainian, Russian, and Bulgarian Wikipedias, will have a link in the sidebar that provides a short URL of that page, using the Wikimedia URL Shortener. This feature will come to more wikis in future weeks. [31]

Future changes

• The removal of the DoubleWiki extension is being discussed. This extension currently allows Wikisource users to view articles from multiple language versions side by side when the <=> symbol next to a specific language edition is selected. Comments on this are welcomed at the phabricator task.
• A proposal has been made to merge the second hidden-categories list (which appears below the wikitext editing form) with the main list of categories (which is further down the page). More information is available on Phabricator; feedback is welcome!

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Block of User:Pppery

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I've reverted your block, If there was issues with content removal from pages, It should have been raised on their talk page in the first instance with example, I've done a quick scan of the user contibs and I can only see vandalism reverts P858snake (talk) 21:24, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

I suspect they copied the wrong username into the block field after this revert. Not that I mind having been blocked, as I didn't try to edit before the block was reverted anyway. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 23:45, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

Huu, what? Did I block Pppery? No kidding? Obviously, but definitively unintentional! Thank you for unblocking P585Snake.

No Pppery, you are a valuable member of this wiki's community. I appreciate your work, and I am glad you are here. Please accept my sincere apology for this false action. I do not copy usernames into the interface but follow the block link next to the user's name or IP. I clicked on the wrong link in the heat of the action since I intended to block the IPv6 you mentioned in your post. [[kgh]] (talk) 07:26, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

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awesome ?

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Hi Karsten, please can you have a look on -> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:Awesomeness#what_about_translated_pages_? It is very poor to understand what it does and the way to translate it. Thanks. --Christian 🇫🇷 FR (talk) 12:20, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

Wow, this one is still sticking around. It was about five or six years ago that I last looked at it. Anyhow, I answered on the extension's talk page. Cheers. [[kgh]] (talk) 12:25, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

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