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Re: Widget code edit requests

Regarding our discussion here, let me know in a reply here on THIS wiki please, when you get some details worked out - I'm more likely to see it a bit quicker that way. DSquirrelGM𝓣𝓟𝓒 02:52, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-17

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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Tech News

• The next issue of Tech News will be sent out on 4 May 2020.

Recent changes

• <figure-inline></figure-inline> The small wiki toolkits is to help smaller wikis that need technical skills. They can learn and share technical skills. [1]
• <figure-inline></figure-inline> Over-qualified CSS selectors in Wikimedia skins have been removed. div#content is now .mw-body. div.portal is now .portal. div#footer is now #footer. This is so the skins can use HTML5 elements. If your gadgets or user styles used them you will have to update them. [2]

Changes later this week

• There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Future changes

• Some things on the wikis might look weird or not work in Internet Explorer 8 in the future. Internet Explorer 8 was replaced in 2011. [3]
• The font in the diffs will change. [4]
• <figure-inline></figure-inline> The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 28 April next week. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 29 April next week. It will be on all wikis from 30 April next week (calendar).

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Tech News: 2020-24

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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• Some articles have tables that can be sorted in different ways. For example a list of countries can be sorted alphabetically but you can click on the size column to sort them by size. If you clicked on the column a second time it would sort the countries from the bottom to the top instead. A third click will now take you back to the original sorting. [5]
• Self-closed tags now work as in the HTML5 specifications. This means you should stop using some of them. <b/> is an example of a self-closed tag that won't work. area, base, br, col, embed, hr, img, input, keygen, link, meta, param, source, track, wbr can be self-closed. Pages with tags that should not be self-closed have been listed in a tracking category since 2016. They will be listed in Special:LintErrors/self-closed-tag. This doesn't affect <references /> or <ref />. [6]
• There is a banner called WikidataPageBanner. It is for example used by the Wikivoyages, Wikimedia Russia and the Catalan, Basque, Galician and Turkish Wikipedias. It will now been seen by mobile visitors too. Before this it was only seen on desktop. The wikis should update instructions on MediaWiki:Sitenotice so that editors know to test and style for mobile too. [7][8]

Changes later this week

• <figure-inline></figure-inline> You can now edit MassMessage descriptions through the API. This is useful for tools and gadgets. [9]
• <figure-inline></figure-inline> The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 June. It will be on all wikis from 11 June (calendar).

Future changes

• A temporary fix helped wikis make their main pages more mobile friendly. This was in 2012. It has not been recommended since 2017. It will not work after 13 July. Wikis should use TemplateStyles instead. 118 wikis need to fix this. You can read more and see if your wiki is affected. [10]

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21:12, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2020-28

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Problems

• The Score extension has been disabled for now. This is because of a security issue. It will work again as soon as the security issue has been fixed. [11]

Changes later this week

• <figure-inline></figure-inline> The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 July. It will be on all wikis from 9 July (calendar).

Future changes

• Abstract Wikipedia is a new Wikimedia project. It will collect language-independent information that can be easily read in different languages. It builds on Wikidata. The name is preliminary. You can read more. [12]
• The iOS Wikipedia app developers are thinking about new experimental tools. If you use an iPhone you can help them by answering the survey.
• Some rules for user signatures will soon be enforced. Lint errors and invalid HTML will no longer be allowed in user signatures. Nested substitution will not be allowed. A link to your user page, user talk page or user contributions will be required. You can check if your signature works with the new rules. This is because the signatures can cause problems for tools or other text on the page.

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20:18, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

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Dummy Updates from Languages

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Hello. I was here to ask you that you need to change the <languages/> to <languages />. You can already see Shirayuki is trying to mark as a translation. It's failing at once when you marked for translation, other translated pages are not being updated when it is failed. Please remark the translation when you have changed either <languages/> or <languages />. Thanks for you understand.

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Skin:GoMediaWiki is marked
In Skin:GoMediaWiki/tr translation, it's not updated. —Baran ^☪︎ 08:39, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

I basically have no idea when to do a dummy edit or not. The original page is editable, meaning you do not have to drop me a message every time translation propagation does not work. Just do the dummy edit. Thanks. [[kgh]] (talk) 08:43, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

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Wikidata weekly summary #432

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Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Events
  • Upcoming: Next Linked Data for Libraries LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group call: Rob Fernandez (Wikimedia District of Columbia) on Listeria, a tool that uses SPARQL queries to define a list, and provides a bot that will update a wiki page containing that list if the results of that SPARQL query change, all based on Wikidata, 08 September. Agenda
  • Upcoming: live SPARQL queries on Twitch and in French by Vigneron, September 8 at 18:00 CEST
  • Upcoming video: Wikipedia Weekly Network - LIVE Wikidata editing #19 Facebook, YouTube, September 10
  • Upcoming: Online Wikidata editathon in Swedish #29, September 13

• Press, articles, blog posts, videos
  • Semantic Wikibase has been released by Professional.Wiki (Demo video)
  • Video: Wikipedia Weekly Network - LIVE Wikidata editing #18, workflows for SPARQL queries and QuickStatements Facebook, YouTube
  • OpenRefine 3.4 was released
  • How can I get data on all the dams in the world? Use Wikidata. By Addshore
  • Wikidata Training Workshop 2, by Canadian Arts Presenting Association - YouTube
    • Contributing to Wikidata - (Parts 1, 2, 3 & 4)
    • Contributing to Wikidata (in French) - (Parts 1, 2, 3 & 4)
  • Video: How to use QuickStatements - a tool to bulk upload data onto Wikidata. By Dr Sara Thomas

• Tool of the week
  • wmdeanalytics.wmflabs.org/WD_percentUsageDashboard is a dashboard that measures Wikidata's usage and coverage on Wikimedia Foundation projects.

• Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • Entity Explosion, the browser add-on for Chrome is now also available for Firefox. When the user visits a web page, it displays data from Wikidata, about the subject of that page.

• Did you know?
  • Newest properties:
    • General datatypes: none
    • External identifiers: LSG local body code, NYARC Discovery ID, Encyclopaedia of Architects, Vienna 1770–1945 ID, Hrvatska tehnička enciklopedija ID, ICP artist ID, TracesOfWar person ID, Firefox add-on ID, NHK Archives Portal person ID, Hrvatski biografski leksikon ID, InciWeb ID, YUAG ID, Wikipedia Library partner ID, FIPRESCI person ID, Anais do Museu Paulista article ID, Legacies of British Slave-ownership place ID, Wisconsin Historical Society NRHP ID, Carl-Maria-von-Weber-Gesamtausgabe ID
  • New property proposals to review:
    • General datatypes: applies to form or aspect, blocked on the territory of, Liturgical category, Flickr image URL, turning radius, number of reboots, financials URL, SI base units, rank insignia2
    • External identifiers: Syro-Malabar Church Parish ID, Database of Umgebinde houses in Bohemian Switzerland ID, Re-Member ID, DIL ID, Naver Vibe Artist ID, American Battlefield Trust battlefield ID, American Battlefield Trust person ID, L'Officiel des spectacles ID, VA facility ID, Hikr Waypoint ID, tvmaze ID, Thomas Jefferson Encyclopedia ID, Danish educational institution number, Past Fellow of the Royal Society ID, photoLondon ID, uta-net.com song ID, Historic Montana ID, KHRI ID, Seattle Art Museum ID, Nelson-Atkins Museum of Art artwork ID
  • Query examples:
    • Map of companies developing/manufacturing a COVID-19 vaccine candidate that is at least in a phase 1 clinical trial
    • A table of the 100 highest fees charged for using various kinds of facilities, normalized to United States dollars - OSM/Wikidata query
    • Youngest age of UK MPs leaving office since 1900 (Source)
    • Longest time UK MPs lived after leaving office since 1900 (Source)
    • British cabinet members with past military service (Source)
    • Earliest written record of 10 largest Czech cities (Source)
    • Churches dedicated to Czech patron St. Wenceslas (blue) and Moravian patrons St. Cyril and Methodeus (orange) (Source)
    • German municipality names ending with -in, -ing, -heim (Source)

• Development
  • Added Wikidata support to Japanese Wikivoyage. phab:T261451
  • Investigating the nature of our training outliers to improve the way ORES automatically scores the quality of an Item.
  • Working on error that sometimes causes Wikidata UI to report 2 error messages when saving a sitelink in an item. phab:T260869
  • Completed various investigations to make an informed decision on the output format of WikibaseManifest files (automated configuration detection for toolbuilders) phab:T261285
  • Completed various bug fixes and wrap-up tasks to conclude the major engineering work on the Federated Properties project
  • More work on Item Quality Scoring and Federated Properties

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

• Monthly Tasks
  • Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
  • Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
  • Contribute to a Showcase item.
  • Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
  • Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
  • Help write the next summary!

Read the full report · Unsubscribe · Mohammed Sadat (WMDE) 14:44, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

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Sites using MediaWiki

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Another hello from me! Did you consider adding MediaWiki wikis for that you create items on Wikidata, for example, to Sites using MediaWiki? 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 10:03, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

No, since this has basically been superseded by WikiApiary [[kgh]] (talk) 14:17, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

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Page creation of "PageDeletionUpdates"

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Hi Kghbln,

Hello, I saw you created the page at Manual:Hooks/PageDeletionUpdates. Did you perhaps see this from the Sofa extension? I created a phabricator task a little bit earlier at task T264697 in case if you're interested. The hook PageDeletionUpdates doesn't actually seem to exist. I recommend that we should put this hook page up for deletion. Thank you! SamanthaNguyen (talk) 21:58, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Indeed. Once the task was clarified we can delete. [[kgh]] (talk) 07:48, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2020-45

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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• You can no longer read Wikimedia wikis if your browser uses very old TLS. This is because it is a security problem for everyone. It could lead to downgrade attacks. Since October 29, 2020, users who use old TLS versions will not be able to connect to Wikimedia projects. A list of browser recommendations is available. All modern operating systems and browsers are always able to reach Wikimedia projects. [13]
• <figure-inline></figure-inline> There is a new automatic tracking category available: Pages with non-numeric formatnum arguments. It collects pages which use the {{formatnum}} parser function with invalid (non-numeric) input, e.g. {{formatnum:TECHNEWS}}. Note that {{formatnum:123,456}} is also invalid input: as described in the documentation, the argument should be unformatted so that it can be reliably and correctly localised. The tracking category will help identify problematic usage and double-formatting. The new tracking category's name can be translated at translatewiki. [14]

Changes later this week

• <figure-inline></figure-inline> The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from November 3. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from November 4. It will be on all wikis from November 5 (calendar).
• Administrators and stewards will be able to use a special page (Special:CreateLocalAccount) to force local account creation for a global account. This is useful when account creation is blocked for that user (by a block or a filter). [15]
• The Reply tool will be offered as an opt-in Beta Feature on most Wikipedias on November 4. This change excludes the English, Russian, and German-language Wikipedias, plus a few smaller Wikipedias with special circumstances. You can read the help page and the troubleshooting guide for more information. [16]

Future changes

• A discussion has been restarted about using a Unicode minus sign (− U+2212) in the output of {{formatnum}} when it is given a negative argument. [17]
• In the future IP addresses of unregistered users will not be shown for everyone. They will get an alias instead. There will be a new user right or an opt-in function for more vandal fighters to see the IPs of unregistered users. There would be some criteria for who gets the user right or opt-in. There will also be other new tools to help handle vandalism. This is early in the process and the developers are still collecting information from the communities before they suggest solutions.

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Wikidata weekly summary #443

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Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Events
  • Past: Wikidata Workshop 2020 presentations YouTube playlist
  • Upcoming: live SPARQL queries on Twitch and in French by Vigneron, November 24 at 18:00 CET
  • Upcoming: rC3, the remote version of the Chaos Communication Congress, on December 27-30. Like in previous years, the WikipakaWG will host sessions and workshops related to Wikidata and other Wikimedia projects. The call for participation is open until November 30th.
  • Upcoming: Ghana Histo Cita-thon. Friday 27th November 2020. 9am to 2pm UTC.
  • Upcoming: Online Wikidata meetup in Swedish #40, November 29

• Press, articles, blog posts, videos
  • Wikidata, the collaborative database for machines and humans. Blogpost by Àlex Hinojo (in Catalan)
  • 24 hours of open data - The meetup for the eighth Wikidata birthday, Blogpost by Lea Lacroix (in German)
  • The future of the Riksdag's data in Wikidata. Blogpost by Jan Ainali (in Swedish)
  • WikiPathways: connecting communities: research article outlining, among other things, how Wikidata is used and integrated
  • Using SPARQL to combine Wikidata and OSM triples
  • ANN: A platform to annotate text with Wikidata IDs (report) "Report of the work done by the Ann team at the eLife Sprint 2020. It describes the effort pursued towards a system for universal annotation of biomedical articles using the collaborative knowledge graph of Wikidata".
  • TU Dresden lecture on Knowledge Graphs (replay)
    • Wikidata introduction - YouTube
    • Content model of Wikidata - YouTube
    • How the content of Wikidata can be represented in RDF - YouTube

• Tool of the week
  • EntityShape.js is a script that allows you to check an Item against an EntitySchema. On the Item page, it will display various information about the Item, like the properties that should be present on the Item.

• Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • The proposals phase of the Community Wishlist Survey 2021 is open until November 30th. You can submit wishes in various categories, like Wikidata.
  • SMWCon 2020 virtual conference is from 24 to 26 November 2020. Do not forget to register at Hopin!
  • The note-taking app Kanopi got first pieces of Wikidata integration.
  • The Listeria Evolution: Listeria has got an update
  • Wikimedia Deutschland has two open positions around the Wikidata development team; Full Stack Developer and Partner Relationship Manager

• Did you know?
  • Newest properties:
    • General datatypes: epithet, attraction to, hairstyle, poverty incidence
    • External identifiers: IMMuB artist ID, IMMuB album ID, WordNet 3.1 Synset ID, IAFD film distributor ID, Yandex Zen ID, NCAA school code, Church of Jesus Christ pioneer ID, Pitchfork artist ID, Monuments de mémoire ID, Memorial Book for the Victims of National Socialism ID, Xfinity Stream ID, Sports-Reference.com college basketball school ID, edition humboldt digital ID, GitLab username, AAA attraction ID, Swiss-Gym Male ID, Swiss-Gym Female ID, Museum Day ID, PAN member, Union Catalog of Armenian Libraries authority ID, MetaSat ID, Visages du diocèse d'Autun ID, SPOnG game ID, Prêtres du diocèse de Quimper ID, LibraryThing venue ID, Union des artistes ID, Restaurant Guru Restaurant ID, PromoDj ID
  • New property proposals to review:
    • General datatypes: vénéré à, Number of blood donors, People reached, number of awards, has positive marker, ID pattern, lunar coordinates, adjacent to, date posted, ITRANS, National Library at Kolkata romanization, complementary property, MTRCB rating, DBLP conference ID, fait l'objet d'une vénération à
    • External identifiers: DriveThruComics numeric publisher identifier, Hyperion Records person ID, Arken, AAA hotel ID, AAA restaurant ID, AAA campground ID, AstroGen ID, Reliwiki page ID, Sonneveld-index, SIL ID, AniDB Episode ID, Encyclopedia of the History of Ukraine ID, Lumni ID, Archives at Yale Names ID
  • Query examples:
    • Aberdeen recycling centers and recycling points (Source)
    • Map of Semantic Web in Libraries 2020 participant's institutions (federated query) (Source)
    • Women who play chess and have a Wikipedia article in Spanish (They are 132 while men have 899 entries) (Source)
    • Timeline of Dietary Advocates (Source)
    • Philosophers born between 0 and 500 grouped by the decade where they lived (Source)
    • Video games from ?country (template) (Source)

• Development
  • Query Builder: We're making it possible to switch between querying for specific values (e.g. all Items with a specific post code) or any value (all Items with a post code statement regardless of which one it is)
  • Correcting the behaviour of what automatically happens on Wikidata when a page is moved on Wikipedia and co to an excluded namespace with the "suppress redirect" option (phab:T261275)
  • Making language fallback indicators not show up for language variant fallbacks in a few more places (phab:T267502)
  • Adding html language attributes for statements linking to Forms and Senses (phab:T267023)
  • Working on language and lexical category fields turning red on unfocus even though no changes are made after a change in ooui (phab:T266936)
  • Finished building the 1.35 versions of the Wikibase base and bundle docker images and published to dockerhub (phab:T264538)

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

• Monthly Tasks
  • Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
  • Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
  • Contribute to a Showcase item.
  • Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
  • Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
  • Help write the next summary!

Read the full report · Unsubscribe · Mohammed Sadat (WMDE) 17:21, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

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