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Patrolling "add a link" and "add an image" structured tasks

KStoller-WMF (talkcontribs)

We have been discussing some of the challenges of patrolling "add a link" and "add an image" structured tasks with patrollers on Arabic Wikipedia, Spanish Wikipedia, and Russian Wikipedia.

We are considering several improvements suggested by community members, and I want to open up a discussion here as well:

  1. How should we make these structured tasks better to ensure high-quality edits?
  2. How should we make these structured tasks easier / faster to review for patrollers?
Iniquity (talkcontribs)

Hello! I found this thread quite by accident ;)

The current implementation of structured tasks has several problems:

1. They are very easy to make, which allows users not to think what they are doing.

2. You can make a lot of them, partially solved by limits, but still it is impossible to reduce the limits forever.

3. There can be multiple added links in one edit, which does not make it easy to undo the wrong link.

4. There is no automatic/semi-automatic notification to a newbie that their edit has been reverted for such and such a reason.

To deal with these issues, you can do the following:

1. Create a module, but for experienced editors (500+ edits)

2. Instead of / together "add link" they will have "check link"

3. When checking, the editor gets already corrected articles, with added links.

4. He checks each link and if it is incorrect, he marks it and leaves a comment.

5. The comment is posted on the participant's talk page.

6. If there were many (60%) such reverts for one participant, then access to the tool is blocked for him.

It seems to me that this will solve problems with new editors as well and will attract experienced editors to review contributions.

NGC 54 (talkcontribs)

@Iniquity: "3. There can be multiple added links in one edit, which does not make it easy to undo the wrong link.": You can use Diffedit for this.

Iniquity (talkcontribs)

Oh, thanks for this script, never seen it before! :)

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Thank you very much for sharing this very interesting gadget, @NGC 54!! We have so many gadgets available, it is difficult to know all of them.

I will test it with my volunteer account.

KStoller-WMF (talkcontribs)

Thank you @Iniquity for this feedback! Our team is planning to conduct some further outreach to gather ideas this week and then team members who aren't active patrollers are participating in a demo from a patroller so we can better understand frustrations related to "add a link" and "add an image" tasks. After this, we will review ideas like yours so we can start to evaluate the effort and impact of each idea. I will be sure that your ideas are represented in our discussion.

I really like this idea of creating an easier "check link" workflow for experienced editors. Do you have any thoughts as to how this would fit into the current patroller workflow? Would this be an "advanced" task available on the newcomer homepage, but only available to users with 500+ edits? Or would this a tool somehow integrated into the Recent changes feed? A special Editing gadget that was opt-in only?

Thanks again for the feedback, I appreciate your insight!

Iniquity (talkcontribs)

Thanks for the detailed answer :) I'm glad that you listen to our opinion!

It seems to me that initially it should be integrated into the newcomer homepage.T hen, if everything goes well, perhaps we can create a full-fledged tool (patrol) for the future.

Iniquity (talkcontribs)

I was still thinking about how we can fasten the check and removal of templates. See phab:T274909. That is, the priority is to display pages with a template, and then check them.

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