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V1.0 Prototype feedback: Patriccck

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Summary by PPelberg (WMF)

T270539: Automatically populate the edit summary field

T267444: Make the affordance(s) for adding a new topic easier to identify and access

T270323: Consider how to allow users to create new discussions on non-existent (red linked) talk pages

Patrik L. (talkcontribs)

Thank you for your work! It is great.

  1. Prototype has not auto edit summary (for example "new section") when adding section, but it is in the history. It is also too long (see this section) when adding and publishing new section.
  2. I wrote that probably before but the link for addng section is hard to find for newbies.
  3. Easy way to add section especially for newbies but also for senior users.
Patrik L. (talkcontribs)

Note: try add new section for example here. Why is not launched New discussion tool?

PPelberg (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Thank you for your work! It is great.

We appreciate the support you continue to offer make this work great, @Patriccck ^ _ ^ Some comments in response to the points you raised below...

Prototype has not auto edit summary (for example "new section") when adding section, but it is in the history.

Great catch. Here is a ticket or this issue: T270539.

It is also too long (see this section) when adding and publishing new section.

Ah, yes. This is frustrating. Fortunately, the slow leading is a result of the tool being run on a test wiki. Once deployed to production, the tool should load quickly. cc @Matma Rex in case he has anything he'd like to add here.

I wrote that probably before but the link for addng [sic] section is hard to find for newbies.

We agree. The work to make it so people easily identify the affordance for starting a new conversation will happen in T267444.

Note: try add new section for example here. Why is not launched New discussion tool?

The New Discussion Tool needs to support pages that have not yet been created, you're right. Here is the ticket where the work to add this support will happen: T270323.

Patrik L. (talkcontribs)

Perfect, thanks for info.

Matma Rex (talkcontribs)

Ah, yes. This is frustrating. Fortunately, the slow leading is a result of the tool being run on a test wiki. Once deployed to production, the tool should load quickly. cc @Matma Rex in case he has anything he'd like to add here.

The new discussion tool loads just as fast – or just as slow – as the reply tool. You can try the [reply] buttons on the demo wiki and see they're also awfully slow, but on Wikimedia wikis they always load nearly instantly for me. I don't know why the demo wikis are so slow, we didn't have time to investigate it (and I think we didn't realize just how slow it feels and didn't prioritize this).

Prototype has not auto edit summary (for example "new section") when adding section, but it is in the history.

I replied on the task Peter filed (T270539): this actually seems to work correctly for me in most cases, but it behaves weird sometimes.