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SuggestBot and Newcomer tasks

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Iniquity (talkcontribs)

I correctly understand that this is an analogue of the en:User:SuggestBot but only for beginners? :)

MMiller (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Hi @Iniquity -- thank you for getting in touch! It is true that our work is inspired by SuggestBot -- in fact, one of the maintainers of SuggestBot is a member of the Growth team: @MWang (WMF). The most important thing we learned from SuggestBot is that suggestions that match the interests of a user are more likely to get edited by them (per this paper). A big difference between Newcomer Tasks and SuggestBot is that Newcomer Tasks is available for users to browse through, whereas SuggestBot pushes suggestions to the user.

Regarding your question about it being "only for beginners" -- our team focuses on beginners, but there's no reason that this feature, which is essentially a feed of editing tasks that need doing, couldn't be used by experienced editors, too. One day, we may be able to proactively expand it for those users, but in the meantime, any user (in the wikis that have the feature set) can turn it on in their preferences.

Are you a user of SuggestBot? Do you think we're heading in the right direction?

Iniquity (talkcontribs)

> but in the meantime, any user (in the wikis that have the feature set) can turn it on in their preferences.

@MMiller (WMF) where? :)

Iniquity (talkcontribs)

Hello, @MMiller (WMF)! Thanks for the detailed answer. I did not know that Nettrom is one of the Grown team. This is cool :)

> A big difference between Newcomer Tasks and SuggestBot is that Newcomer Tasks is available for users to browse through, whereas SuggestBot pushes suggestions to the user.

I'm not quite sure, but the bot seems to have such a function: w:Wikipedia:Community_portal/Opentask.

> Are you a user of SuggestBot? Do you think we're heading in the right direction?

No, I don't use the bot, as I solve other problems. But I brought open task to Russian Wikipedia. And yes, it seems to me that you are on the right direction, this is a very cool thing that allows you to gently guide participants to improve Wikipedia. And for beginners, it helps to understand Wikipedia, since it is very difficult to know where to start your contribution. Keep it going! :)

MMiller (WMF) (talkcontribs)

@Iniquity -- we are actually looking for more wikis that want to try the Growth features. Do you think there would be interest from Russian Wikipedia? If so, our team's community relations specialist, @Trizek (WMF), can help start a discussion about it.

Iniquity (talkcontribs)

@MMiller (WMF), Yes, I think it will be interesting. I'm generally surprised that you work with so few projects.

By the way, I immediately want to suggest improving the documentation, and add a description of the project with a screenshot in the first paragraph. Otherwise, you can understand what the main projects are about, only at the end of the page:

MMiller (WMF) (talkcontribs)

@Iniquity -- I went through and made sure all the pages you listed have up-to-date screenshots. Thanks for pointing this out!

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

If you have any questions about the deployment of Growth team features on Russian Wikipedia, let me know!

We have a page where all work needed is listed.

Iniquity (talkcontribs)

Well, thanks, then I'll start the discussion in the community.

Iniquity (talkcontribs)
Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Great!

Have you created a Phabricator task? You don't really need one for now, but it will be mandatory for the deployment. Let me know if you need assistance. :)

Iniquity (talkcontribs)

I just created it, I will supplement it with information later :) phab:T257490.

Trizek (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Yay! Great!

Out of curiosity, how have you heard about the Growth features?

Iniquity (talkcontribs)

On the Phabricator, I noticed activity in the tasks that interest me :)

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