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Wikipedia as seen from Norwegian ip-adresses

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Dyveldi (talkcontribs)

Wikipedia as seen from Norwegian ip-adresses

There is a lot we do not know about Wikipedia editors and readers. One thing we do know is that one of the larger user groups is students. So what does Wikipedia offer students and academics working from Norwegian ip-adresses?

I have quite unofficially done a small piece of original research. I have visited two of the largest educational institutions in Norway logged on and taken a good look at the selection of languages offered to Norwegian students and academics. I visited Norways biggest and oldest university (UiO se article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Oslo). It has around 27 000 studentes and 6000 employees. I also visited Høgskolen i Oslo og Akershus (HiOA, see article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oslo_and_Akershus_University_College ) with more than 17 000 studentes and 1 700 employees.

In addition I visited Norways main library (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Library_of_Norway ) and supplemented my findings from one of their PCs.

I looked at the Main page, first from Norwegian bokmål, clicked on to Norwegian nyorsk and went on to Danish. All of which have turned DLL on. I logged which languages Wikipedia has to offer for a Norwegian student or academic reading from any of these institutions.

After looking at the Main page I looked at Tinget (English counterpart Wikipedia:Village pump), bokmål and nynorsk and Danish. Went on to « Edvard Munch », looked at the same three languages and on to  « Norge » (Norway),  « Zanzibar» and last but not least looked at « Botswana ».

The selection at UiO and HiOA was identical. Interestingly the selection as viewed from our national library was slightly different. It was also somewhat astonishing that the main page existed in eighter 22, or 33 or 292 languages depending on which wikipedia I visited.

MAINPAGE - Norwegian bokmål

Offers me the following language list

·     Norsk nynorsk

·     Deutsch

·     English

·     Espanol

·     Francais

·     Portugues

·     ru

·     samegiella

·     zh

·     + 13 more

MAINPAGE - Norwegian nynorsk

Offers me the following language list

·     Norsk bokmål

·     Svenska

·     Dansk

·     English

·     Samegiella

·     ar

·     ur

·     hi

·     zh

·     + 24 more

MAINPAGE - Danish

·     ar

·     Cebuano

·     English

·     hi

·     ja

·     Norsk nynorsk

·     Samegiella

·     Winaray

·     zh

·     +283 mer

Working from The National Library of Norway I get a slightly different choice: I lose hi. but gain norsk bokmål.

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TINGET- bokmål

·     ar

·     English

·     Espanol

·     hi.

·     Norsk nynorsk

·     ru

·     Samegiella

·     ur

·     zh

·     + 201 flere

TINGET- nynorsk

·     Norsk bokmål

·     svenska

·     Dansk

·     English

·     Espanol

·     .hi

·     samegiella

·     .ur

·     .zh

·     + 206 til

TINGET- dansk

·     .ar

·     English

·     Espanol

·     .hi

·     norsk nynors

·     ru

·     samegiella

·     .ur

·     .zh

·     + 201 mer

Working from The National Library of Norway I get a slightly different choice: Russian is replaced with Norsk bokmål.

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EDVARD MUNCH - bokmål

·     .ar

·     English

·     Espanol

·     .hi

·     bahasa ingonesia

·     norsk nynorsk

·     ru

·     samegiella

·     .zh

·     +74 flere

EDVARD MUNCH - nynorsk

·     Norsk bokmål

·     svenska

·     dansk

·     .ar

·     English

·     Espanol

·     .hi

·     samegiella

·     .zh

·     +74 mer

EDVARD MUNCH fra dansk

·     .ar

·     English

·     Espanol

·     .hi

·     bahasa Indonesia

·     norsk nynorsk

·     russisk

·     samegiella

·     .zh

·     +74 mer

Working from The National Library of Norway I get a slightly different choice as Bahasa Indonesia is replaced with norsk bokmål.

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NORGE  - bokmål

·     afrikaans

·     .AR

·     dansk

·     føroyskt

·     hrvatski

·     norsk nynorsk

·     samegiella

·     Suomi

·     svenska

·     +248 flere

Working from The National Library of Norway I get a slightly different choice as hrvatski is replacedwith english.

NORGE  -nynorsk

·     norsk bokmål

·     svenska

·     dansk

·     afrikaans

·     .ar

·     føroyskt

·     hrvatski

·     samegiella

·     Suomi 

·     +248 til

Working from The National Library of Norway I get a slightly different choice as Suomi (Finnish) is replaced with English

NORGE  - dansk

·     Afrikaans

·     .ar

·     Suomi

·     føroyskt

·     hrvatski

·     norsk nynorsk

·     norsk bokmål

·     samegeilla

·     svenska 

·     +248 mer

Working from The National Library of Norway I get a slightly different choice as Swedish is replaced with English.

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ZANZIBAR bokmål

·     .ar

·     English

·     Espanol

·     .hi

·     bahasa Indonesia

·     norsk nynorsk

·     ru

·     .ur

·     .zh

·     +76 flere

ZANZIBAR nynorsk

·     norsk bokmål

·     svenska

·     dansk

·     .ar

·     English

·     Espanol

·     .hi

·     .ur

·     .zh

·     +76 til

ZANZIBAR dansk

·     .ar

·     English

·     Espanol

·     .hi

·     bahasa Indonesia

·     norsk nynorsk

·     ru

·     .ur

·     .zh

·     +76 mer

Working from The National Library of Norway I get a slightly different choice as Bahasa Indonesia is replaced with Norwegian bokmål.

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BOTSWANA bokmål

·     Dansk

·     .mk

·     norsk nynorsk

·     ru

·     samegiella

·     setswana

·     Suomi

·     svenska

·     .zh

·     +201 flere

Working from The National Library of Norway I get a slightly different choice as Chinese is replaced with English.

BOTSWANA nynorsk

·     norsk bokmål

·     svenska

·     dansk

·     .mk

·     ru

·     samegiella

·     setswana

·     Suomi

·     .zh

·     +201 til

Working from The National Library of Norway I get a slightly different choice as Chinese is replaced with English

BOTSWANA dansk

·     English

·     Suomi

·     mk

·     norsk nynorsk

·     ru

·     samegiella

·     svenska

·     setswana

·     zh.

·     +201 mere

Working from The National Library of Norway I get a slightly different choice as Chinese is repalaced with Norwegian bokmål.

My question is how on Earth has DLL figured out that this should be the prefered language lists for Norwegian students and Academics? Why is this considered a useful list working from Norway?

Dyveldi (talkcontribs)

And if anybody wonders what DLLs choice of languages for Dyveldi is it was arabisk, english, espanol, hindi, norsk nynorsk, samegiella, svenska, urdu og kinesisk on July 19th and so it still is today. It is most certainly not representative of the languages I have visited or have the remotest connection with which languages I am interested in, read or write. Regards, although not so very respectfully, Dyveldi

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