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Can we switch on translation for this page?

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Summary by Kghbln

Switched to translation.

Iniquity (talkcontribs)

Now I was a little surprised when I saw outdated news in the Russian version.

Quiddity (WMF) (talkcontribs)

I think it might be even more complicated than usual, because of the existing manual translations. I.e. I don't know what would happen if we simply added the usual <translate> markup, because all of the existing subpages are currently located where the software-generated pages would normally be placed. Maybe User:Nikerabbit can advise on the best way to solve this?

(See also Topic:V35xf4mp6jxeozb1 for earlier similar discussions.)

Iniquity (talkcontribs)

I think @Base can tell us how to do it :) We have already done this with some page.

Base (talkcontribs)

It implies a lot of work to manually (or semi-automatically with Special:PageMigration) transfer the existing translations to Translate, but the process itself is quite straightforward. I've provided Iniquity with the information needed. But could you, Quiddity (WMF), lower the protection of the template so that Iniquity can start adding the translate tags?

Quiddity (WMF) (talkcontribs)

IIUC, that template Template:MediaWiki News is cascade-protected via Template:Main page so I cannot lower it. But if you make the edits in a sandbox version, I'd be happy to copy them across when ready! :)

Iniquity (talkcontribs)
Quiddity (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Now done. The main page didn't break, so I think you're good to go on the rest of it. Thanks again!

Baris6161TURK (talkcontribs)

Yes. It's really worked but the News page is showing <translate> tags. I think News page should be redirected to Template:MediaWiki News. Is that a good thing?

Quiddity (WMF) (talkcontribs)

I've fixed that by piping the transclusion through template:TNT

Kghbln (talkcontribs)

This killed 14 years of translations for the German version of the template. I am pretty angry. How do we go about this?

Quiddity (WMF) (talkcontribs)

@Kghbln I believe Iniquity plans to copy the historical translations across, per the comment earlier in the thread from Base (I.e. "It implies a lot of work to manually (or semi-automatically with Special:PageMigration) transfer the existing translations to Translate, but the process itself is quite straightforward. I've provided Iniquity with the information needed").

Kghbln (talkcontribs)

He will encounter problems here since the German translations not always matched the English original with regards to content and structure. Moreover it is probably the only language that was basically up to date at most of the times.

Iniquity (talkcontribs)

I hope that the strings match.

Kghbln (talkcontribs)

No, they do not. However I found another solution which is acceptable from my point of view. So no need to migrate. I am no longer grumpy. :D

Iniquity (talkcontribs)

Thanks! But it is necessary to translate in any case :)

Kghbln (talkcontribs)

All current news are translated via Translate. Good enough for me. Thanks for migrating.

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New feature: Watchlist Expiry

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IFried (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Hello, everyone! The Community Tech team will be releasing a new feature, which is called Watchlist Expiry. With this feature, you can optionally select to watch a page for a temporary period of time. This feature was developed in response to the #7 request from the 2019 Community Wishlist Survey. To find out when the feature will be enabled on your wiki, you can check out the release schedule on Meta-wiki. To test out the feature before deployment, you can visit testwiki. Once the feature is enabled on your wiki, we invite you to share your feedback on the project talk page. For more information, you can refer to the documentation page. Thank you in advance, and we look forward to reading your feedback!

Koavf (talkcontribs)

That's great. Thanks for all your hard work.

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2dk (talkcontribs)

Hi, what happened with the language list on Wikipedia? The sorting used to be more or less alphabetic but now it is random. Were there any notifications or something?

Majavah (talkcontribs)

VE bug triage meetings

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Summary by Ainz Ooal Gown

Too much vandalism, please refrain from reopening this old resolved topic without a good reason.

Elitre (WMF) (talkcontribs)
Qgil-WMF (talkcontribs)

YesYDone If you have alternative copy, just post it here.

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Translate Page into Persian

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Summary by Ainz Ooal Gown

Too much vandalism. Feel free to create a new thread if the issue hasn't been resolved.

Mobin2008 (talkcontribs)

I want to translate the news page in Persian. How should I do this?

Elitre (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Hey @Mobin2008, thanks for this question. This page doesn't seem available for translation, but more importantly, its scope is pretty limited. Would you rather be interested in helping deliver tech news more often to your community perhaps? As an example, see https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2019/28. Let me know what you think.

2A01:5EC0:2024:22A8:4D8C:43FF:A4B8:C9B (talkcontribs)

Is it not possible for me to translate this page into Persian?

Elitre (WMF) (talkcontribs)

The Mediawiki page, no. The Meta page, which is way more comprehensive as it also includes the information featured here, yes.

Quiddity (WMF) (talkcontribs)

It is possible but not easy to translate this page. I'd agree with Elitre that your time would be probably more effectively spent on other translation needs, for now.

However, for reference: This page is currently setup using the ancient manual system.

You'd need to create an "/fa" subpage similar to Template:MediaWiki_News/fr, but you'd also need to manually notice any update to the English page via your watchlist or similar. (you can see how many of the existing translations are outdated, because of this problem).

Hope that helps!

Elitre (WMF) (talkcontribs)

My apologies, I hadn't even noticed that such a system was applied to this page. I just found the language navbox at the bottom of the page, which probably speaks volumes to how easily findable (and hence useful) these translations are? Glad that the user can achieve their goal though!

Mobin2008 (talkcontribs)

So how is this page translated into other languages?

Quiddity (WMF) (talkcontribs)
Mobin2008 (talkcontribs)

OK.I became aware of this.Good time, goodbye. All talk.

Convert to use Special:Translate or not?

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Liuxinyu970226 (talkcontribs)
Bawolff (talkcontribs)
MarkAHershberger (talkcontribs)

Sounds like a good idea!

Mglaser (talkcontribs)

I realize we had major extension releases in the news until roughly 06-2013. I think we should revive this and inform MediaWiki users about extensions as well. The question is, which extensions do we monitor, and who triggers the news? Any suggestions?

Theaitetos (talkcontribs)

Maybe extensions, that are heavily used (according to WikiApiary), are newsworthy. Or extensions, that are added to mediawiki core or become Wikimedia extensions. Or maybe it suffices to produce a monthly/quarterly news article, that lists all major extension releases.

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Link to dev summit videos

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Summary by Qgil-WMF

YesY Done

Bawolff (talkcontribs)
Ckoerner (talkcontribs)

I like this idea. I say go for it!

Qgil-WMF (talkcontribs)

YesY Done Good idea, thank you!

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