Talk:Flow/2013-12 Devployment

Comments from Fram

Are you really going through with this? Without history, diffs, basically anything to track posts and edits? This is way premature. I'm glad that you have decided that deploying on enwiki first (even limited and opt-in) was a poor idea, and that deploying here first is a lot better, but even so, there shoul be some mimimum requirements, and the prototype is a very long way removed from these at the moment. Oh, as an aside, can you create "Flow" as a separate topic on bugzilla, just like VE? It is now hidden too far in the bugzilla search box, but it will be one of the most actively used topics once you start going live with this. Fram (talk) 08:42, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Afaik, they always deploy software to the development-centered wikis (testwiki/test2wiki/mediawiki) first. See MediaWiki 1.23/Roadmap for example.

The History page code was getting some updates on Wednesday, but the devs didn't finish debugging it before the end of the day, so that should be resolved (and hence visible again) on Monday.

Diffs in the history pages - I'll have to check on this, but I think there's code ready to be merged, which adds this function properly.

It is already possible to go straight to a bugzilla entry form for a particular component - I've now added links to the main Flow page here and at Enwiki.

I know you've made recent comments elsewhere, and I'll pass those, and these, along. Thanks! Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 20:38, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. The Bugzilla thing: I mean this, the main search page. Under "Product", you can't choose Flow, unlike VisualEditor or some minor entity like QRPedia.

As for the "always deploy software to mediawiki first", that may have been true in the past (I haven't checked), but this was communicated rather differently for Flow until very recently, e.g. pages like [1] still indicate a Labs - Labs - Labs - Wikiprojects sequence, without any intermediate MediaWiki stage.

I'll check on the other things now. Fram (talk) 10:15, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Re: Bugzilla: Hypothetically (ideally) only "standalone" items are classed as "Product", and anything that is reliant upon something else is properly a "Component" (eg. Echo and Flow). The quick links that we've got onwiki (and in my/our browser bookmarks) will have to suffice.

However, there is also the recently created "Guided form" that the VE feedback page links to, which we can adapt: Guided bug entry for Flow - do you think I should add that to the list of bugzilla-links at Flow Portal#Contact_and_links? (I don't want to overwhelm people with options, and I'm not sure which is preferable at the moment - I'm used to the normal bug-entry page...) Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 19:20, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Monday is still ongoing, so this is not a new report, just a heads-up that at the moment, the history still doesn't work. Fram (talk) 10:17, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Days of the week are a bit fuzzy, when we have editors (and staffers!) in multiple timezones. Monday stretches from the antimeridian all the way around the globe. Almost literally, as there's an engineer in Australia, and 2 on the American West coast. That said, yup, they missed Monday completely. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 19:20, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Tuesday is here, and it still doesn't work. I have added it to the Flow bugs page at the interactive prototype on Labs. Fram (talk) 10:58, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

It finally arrived on Wednesday (sometime in the middle, globe-wise ;). (Other news below). Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 19:20, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Status?

So, the page states "We have the Wednesday 2013-12-04 13:00 PDT deployment window for our deployment to enable Flow on a few pages on mediawiki.org", but a day before this, none of the history / recent changes / watchlist / contributions works for Flow (either not at all, or for recent changes and watchlist not in a usable way). So are you going through with this devployment without these rather basic features, or is the deployment delayed, or do you still hope to solve these within the next 24 hours or so? Fram (talk) 14:19, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

History now works again. :)

Contributions - planned to be added in a lightning-deploy as soon as it's ready and security-reviewed.

Recentchanges/watchlist - revision links were there, but have vanished again >.< I've nudged the team to take a look. Thanks. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 18:28, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

And it's postponed. Till either tomorrow or next week. Further page updates will be coming later in the day. Thanks again ;) Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 18:36, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Flow Portal/2013-12 Devployment says it will be deployed on 10 December. has this not been met or can't I see it for some reason? Oh, and one of the three pages intended for first testing, Talk:Sandbox, is fully protected. Since I'm not wanted as an admin here, It restricts the testing to two pages only instead of three... Fram (talk) 09:16, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Ah, sorry for the missing update ('tis a hectic week IRL). It was mostly deployed yesterday, but the final "making it visible" part is delayed until today (PST) due to a database snafu; so, within the next 8 hours. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 17:02, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

OK, thanks! Fram (talk) 20:05, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Now live. :) Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 00:06, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! Fram (talk) 08:35, 12 December 2013 (UTC)