Talk:Beta Features

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Previous discussion was archived at Talk:Beta Features/Archive on 2015-11-04.

Deactivate Beta Features

Xutra (talkcontribs)

I'm not able to deactivate any beta feature if "Automatically enable all new beta features" is activated.

If I try to deactivate a feature, that setting is not saved.

Jdforrester (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Correct. Disable it, if you don't want to have (almost) all beta features enabled for you.

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Patrik L. (talkcontribs)

Hello, I think that here should be listed Reply tool. It is available at almost Wikipedias (example). Also New discussion tool will be soon available at few Wikipedias (phab). Thanks.

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Redirects in new wikitext editor

Summary by Whatamidoing (WMF)
Monniasza (talkcontribs)

New wikitext editor lacks visual edition of redirects.

Matma Rex (talkcontribs)

Can you clarify? Do you mean that the "Options → Page settings" dialog is unavailable? This is reported as T165162.

(Jeśli wolisz, możemy rozmawiać po polsku – czy chodzi Ci o to, że dialog „Opcje → Ustawienia strony” jest niedostępny? Ten problem mamy zgłoszony jako T165162.)

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Add feature strings to the docu page?

Summary by Kghbln

Will look into this and create a task on Phab if applicable. Anyways thanks for the help.

Kghbln (talkcontribs)

Since the Beta Features extensions also registers features from extensions that are not installed for that wiki it will be good to list also the respective feature strings here, e.g. tmh-videojs for the new video player to be used with the $wgBetaFeaturesWhitelist. This would allow to easily identify and exclude these unavailable features.

Jdforrester (WMF) (talkcontribs)

I don't think that's a good idea. The list lives in config as wgBetaFeaturesWhitelist and no-one will ever remember to update an orphaned list documenting things here when there's no process reason to do that.

Kghbln (talkcontribs)

Fair enough though will be more difficult to find these flags.

Jdforrester (WMF) (talkcontribs)

(Also, what you wrote is wrong; the Beta Feature extension doesn't know anything about an individual features, it's those extensions which are installed on the wiki which register themselves as Beta Features.)

Kghbln (talkcontribs)

A wiki I control offers Popups, HoverCards or what it is called in the preferences. Trust me that neither the extensions TextExtracts, PageImages or Popups are installed or invoked for the this particular wiki. So I wonder where this comes from. Must be a bug from core in this case.

Kghbln (talkcontribs)

Ah, ok. I got confused. Sorry. It is shown in the "Appearance" tab and not in the "Beta Features" tab. So this is a MediaWiki core issue offering features that are not installed.

Jdforrester (WMF) (talkcontribs)
Kghbln (talkcontribs)

As noted in the post you reply to this is no longer about Beta Features. Sorry for the noise.

The preference section allows users to select: Reading preferences - Page previews (get quick previews of a topic while reading a page). No idea what this could be. / Just checked for the system message keys which start with "popups-prefs-..." which I assume refers to functionality provided by the Popups extension. This one is however neither invoked nor installed. It is a core bug in this case. I will create a task for it on phabricator.

Ainz Ooal Gown (talkcontribs)

Is it possible to add an undo feature in Minerva skin? An editor created this meta:User:FR30799386/undo.js script which adds an undo button while previewing a diff on mobile. I've asked on Village Pump (technical) in English Wikipedia to make it a gadget. Is it possible to make it a part of Mediawiki since the Minerva skin lacks an undo feature?

Jdforrester (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Note that gadgets aren't loaded on mobile, so you're right, you'd need to do it as a feature. Beta Features is desktop-only, however.

Ainz Ooal Gown (talkcontribs)

Well StructuredDiscussion is a beta feature but it works on Minerva skin. Also how to add this script to Mediawiki to make it work globally? It is compatible with any wiki which can run using Minerva skin.

Jdforrester (WMF) (talkcontribs)

No, StructuredDiscussions is a regular feature; opting into it for your talk page is a Beta Feature, mostly for ease of user interface.

If you want to add a new feature to Minerva, you should post a Phabricator task suggesting it and explaining why users will get value from it.

Ainz Ooal Gown (talkcontribs)

I see. Thanks. I will wait until it becomes a gadget on en-wiki.

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