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Last Meeting

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  • Type up and circulate meeting notes KL DONE
  • Schedule next 1/2 hour meeting JA DONE
  • Lay out possible outcomes KS T132366
  • Explore options for someone to help us do this research (e.g. in a product/market research capacity) (proposed) AWJR T132360
  • Enumerate possible customers for benefit evaluation (proposed) AWJR

Agenda

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  1. Review action items from last meeting
    1. Lay out possible outcomes KS https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132366
      1. Done.  7 possibilities.  https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Phlogiston_possible_outcomes
      2. Arthur: for option 7, could also get a non-WMF 
      3. Joel: maybe useful to consider re-framing in terms of pilot vs production
      4. Joel: What else are we doing with this list?
        1. Kevin: identify next steps, things to research
        2. Joel: identify cost/benefit for all options
          1. Kristen: we already did this for some parts
    2. Explore options for someone to help us do this research (e.g. in a product/market research capacity) (proposed) AWJR T132360
      1. No progress - blocked by time, and not sure what they are.
      2. Kristen: plan was to figure out cost/benefit.  Did some cost; big work is to quantify the benefits.
        1. Is Phlogiston valuable to group heads for planning and evaluation?
        2. Is Phlogiston valuable to individual team heads for planning and evaluation?
      3. Arthur: so what's the task?
        1. Kristen: Find someone within WMF who might be good at this.
        2. Kevin: Find a way to make this happen.
      4. Kevin: quantify doesn't necessarily mean dollar benefit.  Could be, these X benefits to these Y teams is worth spending 0.5 FTE.
        1. Arthur: quantify benefits, and also costs?  No, just benefits.
    3. Enumerate possible customers for benefit evaluation (proposed) AWJR
      1. No progress - blocked by time, and not sure what they are.
      2. Kristen: This is, figure out who that marketing expert from the last question should talk to.
  2. Next steps on existing work:
    1. for Arthur's two items: meet again in a week.
    2. Kevin: want refinement pass on options.
      1. Joel: could try and fit in the pilot vs production model, and also, maybe sketch out some benefit areas for Arthur to consider.
      2. Kristen: after review is done, plug that into a spreadsheet.
      3. Notify TPG (but not required) Joel to make tracking tasks
  3. Should we start doing triage now?
    1. Could use some help triaging current incoming requests while Phate is lingering?
    2. Arthur: should we do that as part of team review?
      1. Joel: Triage Wednesday, Review Thursday?  Yes.
      2. Joel: helpful. when I have customer attention, want to give turnaround faster than that.
      3. Kevin: seems odd (not necessarily bad) to make Joel's pilot, experimental project a TPG-wide thing
      4. Kristen: [...] 
      5. Kevin: [...]
      6. Joel: #1 motivation is to help me catch things that are shiny but not necessary for where we are for pilot
      7. Arthur: Should we try and triage some current tasks tomorrow?
      8. Arthur: let's try doing some team-wide triage this week and see how it goes.
      9. Joel to find tasks that he is currently on the fence about and put in TPG for triage.

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