MediaWiki Stakeholders' Group/Fantastic MediaWikis Program/Promoting MediaWiki
Bryan
- Poor governance
- Essentially for the Wikimedia projects
- Example: Kubernetes: The software is not owned by google anymore. Result: Roadmap planning involves a lot of stakeholders
Sabine
- Use cases are not clear
- It seems like it is still in the past
Richard
- MW is losing ground against Confluence in google trends
- Focus on usage, change it in the direction the users need it
- Standardisation
- Even in WM context there are many use cases
- Different ideas of where we want to google
- how can we institute a governance model for mw?
Bryan
- Kubernetes: shift from inside
- realized there is an opportunity for a wide spread open source software
- operational contract for the stakeholders
Richard
- Maybe use MediaWiki Community edition
Sabine
- A matter of relevance -> to the Foundation
- WMF is entierly missing the conversation outside
- Knowledge management is dead: lifelong learning, digitalisation, etc. is the new trends
Brion
- If we want to spread MW software, we need to have a shift of how WMF looks at MW
- WMF is struggling to supprt sister projects, how should it provide 3rd parties?
- Therefore goverance model is the way to google
- There is a shift in the WMF
Bryan
- Convince Management that MW is a core part of the mission of WMF
How?
Bryon
- Make a ROI proposition which makes sense (to convince)
Brion
- Need a lobby from inside and outside
Ziko
- There is a change aversion in the community
Brion
- Take individual projects that will be a sustained effort, e.g. community release,
- Prove there is an active community around this
- Keep communication lines open
Richard
- Community change aversion is not an issue with enterprise users
- We can offer experience besides documentation and translation
- Not only an issue only of governance, but 3rd party devs are also reluctant
Sabine
- Make the point for the encyclopedic use cases
Markus
- Two things: Show the value of 3rd party contributions to WMF and 2) increase number of users by showing use cases and usage
Richard
- What we really can do: start promoting that
Bryan
- Community has more ressources than WMF on MediaWiki (more than 4 devs)
- A group like MWStake grows membership, get all involved
- Work on a roadmap for a common subset things
- As that gains momentung, you will get momentum and by in from the Foundation devs
- Like paid content cannot completely fulfil Wikipedia, paid development can't cover all the needs of MW users
- Volunteers come to advance the open knowledge mission
- Most of the code is probably written by volunteers
Brion
- Don't be afraid to say we need "something" from the Foundation, as long as "something" is specific and does not require a lot of resources
- We need to get communication lines open
- e.g. hook, or use case,
- Foundation needs to be able to see communitys value proposition
Bryan
- Community needs to be more visible, e.g. blogging out q
- Toby negrin in charge