Inuka team (Archive)/Wikistories for Wikipedia/Office hours/Share feature discussion & design showcase

Meeting with Wiki Indonesian community members on May 20, 2023

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The Wikimedia Indonesian community members requested a share feature in the Wikistories tool; the Inuka team started the Design exploration and invited the Indonesian community members to a virtual meeting to showcase their approach and get feedback. The team presented the different designs, and the following are conversations around the design showcase.

  • What are your thoughts about the sharing feature?
    • I have two thoughts:
      • The links, the links don't look good on reals
      • Is it possible to use snapshots and share them on reels?
        • Basic implementation would be a URL + preview
        • Later implementation can be to improve it to platform specific…with snapshot + timestamp because users understand that info on the internet will keep changing.
          • Inuka team's response: The advantage of links is that it updates itself when there is a change to the information. We can explore the option of timestamp
    • I was wondering, is there any option to export as a media?
      • Inuka team's response: We can start with the first version having the basic implementation; future versions can have downloads, exports etc.
    • Is there any privacy disclaimer when people share their Wikistories in WhatsApp or Instagram?
      • People share links on other platforms and it is not a problem in my opinion.
      • We assume the same principle for articles; articles do not belong to any one person but a collaboration so Wikistories would take the same form.
    • I was honestly concerned, but then again licenses in Wikipedia are mostly CC BY SA (?)
      • Yes. The license is CC BY SA.
    • So, two different issues:
      • Privacy
      • License
  • What’s your understanding of share feature? and how is it supposed to work on Wikistories
    • We already have considered some mitigations as part of existing moderation features:
      • Logged in users can edit or create Wikistories
      • Edit nudges on the story builder
      • Watchlist
      • RC logs
      • Displaying content changes to editor
    • In other apps, when I share something,  the URL will be preceded by some default texts (which can be changed). Will you do this as well?
      • Like having "Check this wikistories about ...http://...".
      • We will check with the Engineers if there’s any other technical  implementation we can do.
    • Can we change the feature to “Wikicherita”? cherita is stories in Bahasa, so Wikistories will be Wikicherita.
      • Is this term common or specific to platforms?
        • For Instagram, they call it  Cherita Instagram
  • How do you feel about sharing the stories when Wikistories is in beta?
    • Wikistories has potentials.
    • I agree with Luna, why hide something good when you can share it to the world. Google has had features in beta for a long time.
      • Inuka team's response: what happens when readers are interested in seeing the stories and the tool is still hidden?
        • For me, the "Beta" label is a precaution for people that the app/feature is still not stable. They'll still use it anyway :)
      • Can we start to introduce WS on social media?
      • Inuka team's response: When you say "introduce it to the public", do you have a specific way you are looking at us doing that?
      • I think it's good to keep the feature limited somewhat, e.g. only to registered users.
      • Probably release it later from beta status but keep it as a feature that logged in users can create and edit it?