Inuka team/Wikistories for Wikipedia/Office hours/Mockup design illustration for Wikistories creation or edit notification on editors watchlist

Meeting with Wiki Indonesian community members on March 18, 2023 edit

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Inuka team presented the mockup design illustration using this phabricator ticket; some attendees asked the following questions and comments:

Where can I find how to create a Wikistories?;
Has this patrolling feature already been implemented in the Wikistories tool? https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikistories/Permintaan_bantuan
- Inuka team: This is a mockup that we want to start working on; we wanted your community's input before we implement it.
Is it allowed to use slang terms in Wikistories?
Inuka team: Most of the texts used in Wikistories are from Wikipedia articles; you can only make a few changes that will keep the fact the same. So, the idea is for moderators and page watchers to track the creation and edits of Wikistories created
- I agree, Wikistories should follow the main Wikipedia article.
How is the upcoming voting of the Wikistories editorial policy proposal necessary for the Wikistories tool?
- It will decide if the editorial guidelines would become a policy in the Indonesian Wikipedia which will help reduce misinformation and vandalism and inform users of the baseline expectation for using Wikistories.
I am concerned that moderating content created from Wikistories will become a burden to the administrator later.
- Inuka team: We are working to minimize the admins' burden; you can see some of our proposed features in this phabricator ticket. The solutions are based on feedback we got from your community.
  - Thank you for the explanation. This new feature satisfies the need for patrolling the wikistories.
Will Wikistories be available in the desktop version?
- Inuka team: It's a mobile-first experience, but it is available on desktop.
Can I share a Wikistory on social media?
- Inuka team: We are planning for the share feature, but we must wait for the policies to be in place. In other words, we must ensure our stories have a certain standard before sharing them. Having a Wikistories policy and guidelines will help.
Wikistories have so much potential. It would be great if everyone is exposed to this feature.
Can we share with other social media platforms such as IG, Twitter, FB, etc., or are they still tentative?
- Answered by another attendee: The developers want to make sure that the wikistories are good enough to be shared.
Sharing requires the tool to be out of beta, which requires the policies to be in place. Can we share stories as a picture of a link? The share button doesn't have a link but has another form of share, like a picture. Social media plays a significant role in Indonesia, and it would be essential to start thinking of other options to share rather than rely on the out of Beta excuse. On Instagram, people are not sharing links; they are sharing pictures..maybe providing a link to download and upload to share.
- I like your outside-the-box thinking, but, how do we reconcile changes to a story that has changed to the one already shared?
  - We can put a timestamp on the shared Wikistories to show the time the information is valid. It is a good way to show information can be changed.
    - Still, how do we reconcile to ensure the information is valid even if we put a timestamp?
      - We don't need to think that far. There are two cases:
        Content shared to other platforms(once the content is shared, it is no longer our responsibility); the notification feature is enough for that.
        
        Stories that are within the article can/should remain updated.
This link wikt:Catch-22 (idiomatic) is an example of a difficult situation without escape because it involves mutually conflicting or dependent conditions.
- Wikistories is a great new feature.