Frontend standards group/2014-10-03-Weekly

Agenda

Status Updates

MediaWiki theme for OOjs UI

• Merged, not yet default
  • https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/157866/
  • We don't feel like its all the way there
  • Prateek is now joining us as an implementor and is the doing the stying for this
• concerns around living style guide (mediawiki ui) / mediawiki ooui theme keeping consistent with one another

Server-side OOjs UI generation

• In-progress
• https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/160996/
• Article indicators extension
  • Implemented, not merged
  • https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/162609/

watch star proof of concept?

• Early next week [Trevor]

Icons

• Need for a unified icon set generated from SVG's
• Sharing icons between extensions?
  • Icon "packages" as separate dependencies, RL modules?
• Avoiding code and design duplication

Discussion

• Roadmap
  • Evaluate and improve
  • https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Frontend_standards_group/Roadmap
  • Missing: templates, form standardization
  • Product uptake of OOjs
• Skin System
  • High level design requirements
  • https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Redo_skin_framework

Ori: MediaWiki 2.0 !!

TheDJ: Keep migration layer and emphasise the advantages of the new model to motivate migration.

Next Meeting

• Generated icons for MediaWiki core
• OOjs UI template integration

Retrospective

Working Well

• Prateek, Florian, Matt, Jon (2 volunteers + 2 staff have been working on form standardisation - looks like it's close to being wrapped up)
• First time I've seen this much alignment / coordination across teams over front end
• DJ joined us! W00t! :D (now for more patches :) )
• Incremental patches to mediawiki.ui modules in core
• Trevor has gotten a lot of value and confidence from the discussions

Working Poorly

• Not enough architecture discussion
  • Need to use the group to make detailed decisions (APIs, architecture, etc)
  • Yep. 'Architecture' is scary; I'd simply like to see us share thought processes around software design decisions.
• Seem to be working in our own clusters still, very little code sharing has happened (but this is due to lots of pre-work)
• Lots of moving parts. What are the priorities? Should we have more focus? Or more overview/documentation whatevah ?

Confuses US

• The state of the living styleguide
• how we keep the living styleguide consistent with ooui stylesheets (otherwise we don't have full standardisation)
• Transition from the work on mediawikiui (the less file and the special pages) to php ooui
• Where's my pencil?