Extension talk:Babel

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Languages with no ISO code

Summary by Nikerabbit

Languages without ISO code can only be added locally in a wiki using templates.

Walter Klosse (talkcontribs)

Can we add languages that have no ISO-363 code, like toki-pona?

Base (talkcontribs)
Nikerabbit (talkcontribs)

You can, if you create such templates yourself, like Base explains above. Without a ISO code it won't be added to the Babel extension.

CyberTailor (talkcontribs)

Toki Pona has an ISO code now (search "iso 639-3 tok", i can't send links), so it should be added to MediaWiki.

Nikerabbit (talkcontribs)

This discussion is about Babel, not MediaWiki in general.

Kinyarwanda translations are incorrect

Smashhoof (talkcontribs)

I'm not a native or fluent speaker of Kinyarwanda, but from my experience with the language, I can see that the translations are clearly incorrect. For example, the translation for rw-1 says "Uyu ukoresha agira ubumenyi bucye bw'icyongereza." Forgetting the incorrect grammar for the moment, it actually says "This user has little knowledge of English"! (Icyongereza = English language). The other mistakes are that it should be "Uyu mukoresha" (this user), and it should be "afite" instead of "agira" (gira is never used in present tense indicative). Since I'm not a native speaker I don't feel comfortable providing my own translations, but I did see someone else suggested some good translations a few years ago: Topic:Rnfb66lxtffpe2u4. (@Davykamanzi: you may be interested in this discussion.)

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Category problems on English Wikipedia

Timrollpickering (talkcontribs)

Babel keeps populating some category redirects and clogging up the automatic redirect system. Attempts to fix these have run into problems with certain users who insist on revert corrections on their page and will not sort out the problem themselves.

Current redirects/red linked categories populated include:

Can the extension be amended to fix this or should the user objection be overriden? ~~~~

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Iniquity (talkcontribs)

@Kghbln Yes, it is included in wmf, but this extension is not supported by any developer or group.

Kghbln (talkcontribs)

Well, this is also true to some other extensions run on WMF wikis but in this case the language team takes care of it since it is part of MLEB.

Iniquity (talkcontribs)
Kghbln (talkcontribs)

Yeah, I also think this appears to be bulsh. I would think that one should either remove it from the bundle or do at least hot fixes. However the extension would create a really big fuss if it were not working on the foundation wikis so I still think this justifies the status as being maintained. I am sure somebody will do the hot fix.

Iniquity (talkcontribs)
Nikerabbit (talkcontribs)

I don't know where this thread got started, but a look at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/q/project:mediawiki%252Fextensions%252FBabel tells that the extensions is maintained.

That is not the same thing as someone officially listed as being maintainer of it. It seems that you are looking for active maintenance with PM and UX support, and that is hard to find even for better maintained extensions.

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Lens0021 (talkcontribs)

The Infobox says the extension does not change database, But I found It tries to create a table named as babel (See the source code). Is it a just typo I could fix?

Shirayuki (talkcontribs)
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NemesisAT (talkcontribs)

Hi all, just wondered if this extension is compatible with the Visual Editor, or if there are any plans to add functionality in the future? Thanks

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language level codes inconsistent

Calypso (talkcontribs)

I'm preparing my user page and having difficulties with my language levels. My English level is C2 according to the CEFR (Cambridge Proficiency), and that is considered near-native, which obviously means that I can work with it professionally. And yet, here near-native is 4, below professional performance (5)! I think it would be better to use a well-established scale like the CEFR, from A1 basic to C2 near native.

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Parameters for system messages

Summary by Epok
Epok (talkcontribs)


I would like to adapt the system messages MediaWiki:babel-autocreate-text-levels and MediaWiki:babel-autocreate-text-main on fr wiki to use as a default the standard models we use for language categories.

However, these models take as an input the language code, where the parameters (respectively $2 and $1) provide the language name. Are there other parameters provided for the text creation, which would provide the language code? If not, I think this would be a great idea to provide them.


Shirayuki (talkcontribs)
Epok (talkcontribs)

Yes, thank you, that was the info I was searching!

Have a nice day.

Saippuakauppias (talkcontribs)

Hi people. I am the de:User:Saippuakauppias and, as you can see on my user page in the German Wikipedia, when using " tg-2 " it does not understand it. Could you please solve this? Thank you so much. Regards, @Saippuakauppias (talk) 21:29, 23 October 2018 (UTC) (talkcontribs)

That page is using a babel template, not a babel extension, template vs parserfunction. There's nothing to solve. Look closely at the page...

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Mik (talkcontribs)

There is an inconsistency in different category links. English language points always to meta and other point to local wiki, e.g.:

  • [[m:Category:User en|English]]
  • [[Category:User fr|français]]
  • [[Category:User sp|español]]

I think it will be better that all links point to local wiki.

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