Engineering Community Team/Meetings/2013-03-19
March 19th
editGeneral requests
edit- Come to the Bugzilla office hours today
- Comments on the expanded version of https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Product_development and the new version of https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_contribute ?
- Note: events on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Calendar (and related pages) now support events spanning multiple days, using the "enddate" parameter
- Skim the open tasks https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Product_development in case you have anything to add!
- IRC bug triage today re LQT (and a blog post! https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/03/19/help-wikimedia-squash-software-bugs/ )
- Are we using #wikimedia-office per https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Sharihareswara_%28WMF%29/archivedectmeetings_Feb2013#Wikimedia_QA_IRC_channel_or_mail_list_or_open_other_direct_channels.3F ?
- Go ahead and greet every person who shows up even if it feels a little foolish
- Check out https://docs.google.com/a/wikimedia.org/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Agte_lJNpi-OdGpJSHdMZV83UjdTdHc5UFVrdXBwaWc#gid=0 -- ensuring we test a variety of features and balance testability, urgency, movement goals, etc.? (Including exploratory testing & test automation)
- Check Measuring success of QA activities: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/QA/Strategy#Measuring_success
Previous volunteer events
editMobile upload: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mobile_QA/Commons_uploads#Results
Number of people who tried to upload at least one picture (new users): 34. 9 for iOS and 28 for Android.
21 non-WMF people used the mobile web upload features, and they uploaded a total of 30 images.
QA: Browser automation testing for Wikipedia Search http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/QA/Browser_testing/Search_features Was it successful? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/QA/Browser_testing/Search_features#Evaluation
- Chris wanted to see ~10 edits to the backlog page http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Qa/test_backlog
- 6 scenarios added from the exercise
- How many people whom we didn't expect make the edits? And how many of them are not WMFers? Goal: 5 scenarios written by 5 volunteers
- 7 participants, one not connected to WMF
- "7" includes Valerie & Sucheta.
- Note: the IRC channel was observed, and at least one non-participant IRC observer complimented the exercise.
In the future: let's try doing it in longer form, not so synchronous
Next volunteer event
editWhat's the next exercise? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Calendar How will we do outreach?
- Features testing partnering with Weekend Testing scheduled Apr 6, targeting E3 projects "New Tools for New Users" or similar . Public announcements week of Mar 25.
- predefine what data we want so we can get it from partner teams better
OPW wrapup
edit- Quim has set up meetings with all mentor/mentee pairs, an all-hands at end
Search bugs
edit- Andre would like to clarify: Are we (Chris, Ram, Andre, etc) fine with http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Search and https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ram , the current status of bug reports after initial cleanup, and Search testing infrastructure [plans], or is there any further discussion or meeting wanted by involved parties?
- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Cmcmahon(WMF)/Search_bugs_draft
- Of these 4 components, 2 deal with Lucene
- move to subpage of Search
- Chris would like to know from Ram what bugs are to be addressed in the very near future.
- Andre, what are the candidates for fixing in the very near term? (before we switch to Solr.)
- Let's aim to document the weird ways search works now so we can decide on behavior for the future.
- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Cmcmahon(WMF)/Search_bugs_draft
Search is nominally functioning on beta labs, but should be tested using enwiki as a reference. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34250 Andre at some point wants to push for consensus to reduce # of search components in BZ
- ask Ram & Chad
Bugzilla admin rights
editFrom February conversation:
- Come up with guidelines and requirements who should be Bugzilla admin and why. Nothing in place currently, number growing -> coordination and security issue, plus do non-employees need an NDA? RFC planned for later this week by Andre.
Followup?
- No feedback by Geoff. Philippe said that an NDA is definitely needed (Bugzilla admin = access to Security bug reports), and "whether we want to even allow it" (non-WMF Bugzilla admins) "at all, that's an Engineering decision", so the ball is back in our court.
- Is it possible to have a lower level of access than admin that will still be helpful?
- Decision: Andre to come up with proposed policy and bring it up at an Ops meeting, where they will probably agree, and then implement it.
Vacations & conferences
editAndre:
- Easter Holidays from Fri March29 - Mon April01 (that's public holidays here)
OSBridge talk deadline extended http://opensourcebridge.org/blog/2013/03/were-extending-our-call-for-proposals/ Saturday, March 23 at 11:59 p.m. Texas Linux Fest: deadline April 1st
Consider http://2013.texaslinuxfest.org/ , Valerie! Željko:
out of office for Platform Engineering team meeting this week, attending local bi-monthly software tester's meetup
May 24-26, Amsterdam Hackathon
June 10-12, Selenium Conference
Submitted talks/workshops for a couple of local open source conferences, waiting for reply (May 15-17, September 06-07)
Chris:
Apr 22-25 (Google Test Automation Conference, NYC)
May 2-5 (Telerik Test Summit Peer Conference, Austin TX)
May 24-26 Amsterdam Hackathon
Aug 4-10 Agile2013 (not certain but likely)
Sumana:
- Somewhat out of communication Thursday & Friday due to SMWCon in NYC